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Images of the fourth-generation iPod Nano were leaked onto the Internet recently. Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple, immediately announced, “That’s it. We’re not making any more iPods. The idea that someone would leak those images is hurtful and wrong and because of that, no more iPods will be available for purchase until my feelings aren’t so hurt.”
In related news, Metallica’s new album has also been leaked onto the Internet after a store in France sold a copy early. In response, Metallica destroyed their studio and in an interview told their fans, “Listen, We’re so glad we have your support during this distressing time, and I’m sure you’ll sympathize with us when we say that because of this leak, we’ve decided never to record any music ever again.”
Metallica wasn’t the only band to suffer such a terrible calamity. After Bono played songs from U2′s forthcoming album too loudly on his stereo, a fan who’d recorded them uploaded them to the Internet. While U2 has refused comment personally, a representative produced the following press release: “Bono, The Edge, Adam, and Larry are all inconsolable due to this horrific breach of their rights as artists. As a group, they’ve completely lost their motivation to create music and have decided not to complete the album.”
“Twilight” author Stephenie Meyer reached a similar decision when the unfinished manuscript of her Twilight re-telling “Midnight Sun” was leaked. In a statement on her website, she wrote:
My first feeling was that there was no way to continue. Writing isn’t like math; in math, two plus two always equals four no matter what your mood is like. With writing, the way you feel changes everything. If I tried to write Midnight Sun now, in my current frame of mind, James would probably win and all the Cullens would die, which wouldn’t dovetail too well with the original story. In any case, I feel too sad about what has happened to continue working on Midnight Sun, and so it is on hold indefinitely.
Fortunately, only one of those stories is completely true, and you probably know which one. After observing the furor in the Twilight fandom over the past week and a half or so when the first twelve chapters of Midnight Sun were leaked, the only description possible is “bizarre”. As shown above, artists’ work gets leaked all the time. But why is Stephenie Meyer’s case so terrible that she has decided to cease writing the Midnight Sun altogether? Frankly, it’s bewildering and Meyer’s behavior seems to be much more similar to that of a spoilt child than of a professional author. Still, her decision has provoked her fans’ sympathy in an unparalleled fashion. The many Twilight fan-sites have joined together to create a virtual “quilt” (a somewhat revolting work of Photoshop), a support video (complete with a somewhat revolting homemade soundtrack), and an entire site devoted to sending care packages to Meyer in the wake of the distressing event.
Now, it’s understandable that Meyer would be dismayed that an unfinished and unpolished version of her manuscript would be released to the public. But frankly, what kind of artist goes “oh, it’s not worth it to finish” in response? The situation brings to mind a quotation by Julia Cameron in “The Artist’s Way”:
“Art is not about thinking something up. It is the opposite — getting something down.”
Now, writer’s block is one thing, but that’s not the vibe I get from Meyer’s statement. So where is her fire for the story itself? And why punish her fans (certainly not the ones that leaked it, especially considering the infamous and slightly frightening nuttymadam3575′s video on the subject)? Frankly, the whole state of affairs reeks of infantilism.
Meyer did, however, take back some control by posting a slightly cleaned-up version of the incomplete manuscript on her site and I decided to check it out for the sake of comparison. After all, Jacob’s book in the mostly-atrocious “Breaking Dawn” was better-written than just about everything Meyer has done so far, so I was hopeful that a second attempt at a perspective other than Bella’s would also be as decent.
Unfortunately, not so. My colleague Terri Schwartz disagrees, but to be quite honest I found Midnight Sun as boorish as the rest of the series. There is almost no discernible difference between the writing style of Edward’s point of view and Bella’s, and his personality is revealed to be even less appealing than in the other four books. In a nutshell, Midnight Sun goes as follows:
EDWARD: My life is boring. Everything is boring. High school is so boring. Why bother with humans? They are so boring. I’m so superior, that even I bore myself.
[enter BELLA]
EDWARD: Everything is borin-lo! what do mine eyes behold? She is lovel-NO! The Monster wants to eat her! No, wait! I mustn’t! Let me stalk her instead!
And add in a few hundred pages of angst, endless confirmation of Bella’s ridiculous “Mary Sue” characteristics, and even more purple prose and you basically have the gist of it. And while Edward’s point-of-view was at times mildly interesting thanks to his sort-of negative self-image and his inner conflict, it is ruined thanks to Meyer’s nonexistent grasp on subtlety and craft.
So where does that leave us? Well, as callous as it might sound, Meyer’s decision (as childish as it may be) to leave Midnight Sun incomplete leaves me, at least, sort of relieved.
Edit: Just found out this article got leaked. That’s it. I’m never writing another damn word.
I love you, and this.
Although I am not a published author (yet – that is the eventual goal) I do write, and seriously. That is why I simply cannot understand some of what she says. This is one of them. Take a break, deal with the fursplosion of Breaking Dawn and this leak, and then sit back down at the computer and start writing. It is her job, isn’t it?
Musicians’ music gets leaked and shared illegally all the time, yet they keep continuing to make music. In SM’s case, the MS leak only helped her. Some of the people dissatisfied with BD read the MS chapters and were reminded of their love for the earlier books. How many of these people who downloaded the 12 chapters would have said, “Nah, I don’t need to buy the book. I’ve got my rough draft right here on my comp.” SM could spit in between two blank covers and she’d still have fans clamouring to buy it. MS would have been no different.
By not publishing MS, she and her fans are losing out.
I’ve just finished reading your previous two articles about the ‘Twilight’ series and I agreed 100% with everything you wrote. When I started ‘Twilight’ I found myself wanting to hate it- repetitive, dull, and the need to drag out the story wore me out. Yet, I found myself reading the rest of the series. (Let the shame commence.) I guess the romantic in me loves the ‘idea’ of the story- minus the stalker tendencies, lack of ambition from Bella and suicide issues when Edward leaves.
Then I saw the fit Meyer was pitching about the leak and found myself wanting to go to a mass burning of her books. What a child! Sounsa like she was none-too-impressed with the lack of love for ‘Breaking Dawn’.
So my point being is I completely love this article about her reaction and once again, you’ve taken my thoughts and wrote them out- only expressed them better than I would have done.
I love your honesty and your ability to say it with sarcasm
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Great job as always, Kellen.
I really want to know her publisher’s take on this situation. No doubt Mrs. Meyer received some sort of advance and I wonder if her publisher is considering taking action. After all, they’ve given her money and she’s run away with it.
She did not run away with the money at all. She hadn’t even officially decided to publish it yet anyway. She didn’t agree to any contract yet because she just wanted to take her time to write and enjoy it.
Maybe she has gone over the top with her reaction, but maybe there were some alternatie motives that we don’t hear about. So she can do what she likes with it and us fans just have to hope that some day she honours us with the full article.
Thank YOU!!! I love you!
It is about time someone came out and back hand Meyers for being such a cry baby. I wish it would have been done before Breaking Dawn or as we call it on the Dark Side ( Epic Fail)
Fantastic article, as usual! However, I think this was a publicity stunt. Fans are kissing her feet and it’s making the news! People by the thousands are begging for it. What better leverage to get a big advance from your publisher?
And to compare her to J.K.R is a Joke, she is not even a pimple on J.K.R A@@,
First off, I think I’m in love.
You have said everything that is on my mind and it’s rather creepy yet totally awesome at the same time. If anything all Stephenie Meyer has done is just create more publicity for said book. If she actually got online every once in a while she’d see how her hoards of rabid fangirls are eating up her every word. Some are even taking “virginity pledges” stating they are refusing to read the unfinished manuscript because they want to read the book when it is complete. I for one think that is pathetic, yet nuttymadam’s videos make me laugh out loud.
You had me at ‘iPods were leaked… no more iPods’.
Great blog.
I thought you were serious when I read the first paragraph! I know the new nanos were leaked and I was frantically searching through rumor sites to see where Jobs had said that.
You got me =D
I totally agree with you about Jacob’s book. As horrible as the plot was, that was pretty much the only redeeming thing about Breaking Dawn. I also agree with almost all of your article. However, as much as I am against letting SM live in her delusional world any longer while stealing our money, I enjoyed MS a bit (I also enjoyed the emo-like scenes for the sake of a laugh and all the times she used the word “chagrin”) and I would probably read the entire thing. I think she owes us that much after the awful demon book that is Breaking Dawn.
Happy blogging!
I really love you. Can I adopt you?
Where Stephenie Meyer made her mistake in my opinion, was admitting the silly thing was even real. If she hadn’t of done that, no one would have known if they were really reading Midnight Sun or some fan ficcer’s hoax, until they actually bought the book. By making a big stink out of it, she just caused unnecessary upheaval.
But the interesting thing is, after hearing from millions of former fans that they hated Breaking Dawn, she’s now got rabid fans begging her to finish Midnight Sun, so that’s a plus from her perspective.
Awesome article; expect the Fantastic Fangirl Army to be dropping by anytime soon though, with their capslock and txt speak ammunition at the ready. They’ll probably send you a hate quilt too, that’ll be your moment of glory.
to be fair (even though I LOVE this article) Meyer didn’t say she would never write again. She said she wouldn’t finish Midnight Sun. I do get the feeling that she never intended t actually work on the Manuscript again after the release of Breaking Dawn. So she gladly posted her message on her site!
Hahaha! That was one of the best articles I’ve read concerning Stephenie Meyer and her “fit”. The ipod, Metallica and U2 comparison bitw were funny
I agree with The Taminator. I think this whole thing was a stunt. Not only does this MS leak draw attention away from the BD backlash, the fan-girlies are in overdrive sending love and support to SM and begging and pleading her to finish MS. Hmm. Interesting.
Made of Win! You rule! It’s awesome and right on!
Thank you for being a hysterical voice of reason in the middle of this insanity.
You’re right, she is acting like a child and her writing is terrible.
Then again, when I was 12 no one on the planet could get me to realize that the New Kids on the Block were not, in fact, musical geniuses. Did I care that they didn’t play their own instruments? Did I care that they didn’t write their own crappy lyrics? Did I care that their “dancing” was terrible, robotic crap? Nope. I was in love.
SM is the NKOTB of the literary world.
Ok, Is there any need for you guys to be such assholes about all of this? I think not. ooo, someone wrote a book that you don’t like! big deal, get over it, don’t bash everything just because YOU don’t like it, there are many people who DO like it, which is why it’s so popular, and the reason she reacted the way she did was because she gave that copy to someone she was close to, and THEY leaked it.
Dear ‘Ugh, you guys are idiots.’,
There is no need to bring the fail of Breaking Dawn in to this. Seriously. Or if you are talking about the addicting literary trash Twilight is, or the emo lulzfest Midnight Sun is, brings it on.
This article is simply examining the immature behavior Stephenie has displayed in reguards to the leak. Durr.
Anyways, I agree Kellen.
And sorry if I typed any mistakes. I’m on my Sidekick at school. Rawr.
I completely disagree with your article. Stephanie Meyer had something hurtful happen to her and everyone needs to give her a break for crying out loud!! Also, the wording in her statement on her website is questionable to me. I took from her statement that she is not cancelling Midnight Sun, but putting it on hold. She is not “punishing her fans” — She just needs some time to cool off and I’m sure we’ve all felt that way at some time or another after an upsetting event.
More proof that Midnight sun is just on hold—- This is a statement from Little, Brown books—”A partial draft containing chapters of Midnight Sun by Stephenie Meyer has been leaked on the Internet without the knowledge or permission of either Stephenie Meyer or Little, Brown. Although these early chapters were never intended to be published in their current form, Stephenie Meyer has decided to authorize the posting of these rough, initial chapters on her website (www.stepheniemeyer.com) in fairness to her true, loyal fans. While no decisions have been made at this time regarding the publication of Midnight Sun, Stephenie Meyer is currently at work on other writing projects. Little, Brown looks forward to our continued publishing relationship with Stephenie Meyer and, like her many fans, we are eager to experience her next literary creation.”
Dear “Ugh, you guys are idiots,”
Fangurling is not accepted at this level of intelligence — take your Mary-Sue hugging self elsewhere.
On point as always. Stephenie is being ridiculous about this entire thing and she needs to toughen up. She’s not even that great of a writer anyway, and bigger stuff gets leaked EVERYDAY. She needs to stop being so UNCHIVALROUS and just give the damn book to the people who want it, or just not write it at all, in which case I would laugh extremely hard.
Sorry… deeply CHAGRINED about that statement.
*rolls eyes* Twilight is the most overrated piece of “literature” known to man.
Okay! so firstly.
I LOVED what you had to say, it really made me laugh to be quite honest, and I am in complete agreement. Yes, sure I liked Twilight, i liked it plenty before the disgraceful travesty she called Breaking Dawn. Jacob imprinting on Bella and Edwards child… Ok, thats sick! Not only did he want her mother but he wanted to kill her father now hes utterly devoted to her? Talk about wanting to make your bed and lie in it.
The whole “Wolf imprinting” on a child thing, Quil & claire, Jacob & Renesmee, it was plain SICK! there is nothing more to it than that! Ugh, Twi-hards annoy the hell out of me!!
Be a die hard fan to something sick why dont you, oh please! Stephenie Meyer is acting like a child. YES I understand shes upset, Yes she can have her own views but for heavens sake she should deal with the issue like an adult. My younger brother deals with issues better than she does and hes 6!! Thats saying something.
Will you keep writing if I send you a virtual quilt? What if I make a Support Kellen Rice website? Please?
You are amazing. Meyer does need to grow up. You get bonus points for mentioning Edward’s infuriating boredom and superiority. Do you know that many of the fans are even more in love with Ed after reading the chapters? It makes me want to cry. Hooray for sanity!
You know, I was hoping Midnight Sun would possibly shock/turn off those psychotic Eddie fangirls who are under the impression that he is God’s gift to women, by showing how NOT flawless he really is.
But nope, Stephenie Meyer fails again. If anything, it FURTHER FEEDS the delusions of the rabid Twi-tards. *face-palm*
I’m pretty sure this confirms it: Jacob > Edward. The way SMeyer writes the latter, Jake wins on dimensions alone.
And even after reading Edward’s side of the bewildering twu wub, I still have equally as little comprehension of how he and Bella-sue fell in love as I did before I read the draft.
Having said that, NOTHING fails quite as hard as Bella’s POV, so I would still deem Midnight Sun the better over Twilight. Marginally.
Lol, Shakespeare!
Edwardo’s mention of bringing oil to silence the creaks on his next stalker fest made me die inside. There’s nothing sweet about that.
OK I really agree with you in this article. I am a big fan of the Twilight series and when I heard that Stephanie decided to stop Midnight Sun over someone leaking her draft over the net I was furious. Why would she do this to ALL the fans that have supported her all these years? My feeling is that she wanted to promote her “other” projects (cause no one was really paying attention to them), (at the end of her letter she mentions how much fun she had writting “the Host” and how she has other books coming out soon….blah, blah, blah). I read the leaked chapters and they were pretty good, left me wanting more. But anyways I completely agree with you on the whole childish act.
Your new fan,
Monica
Lulz!
Stephenie Meyer is juvenile enough to pull a “Gudby Cruel Litterary Wurld!1111!!!1oneeleventyhundred!11!” over a leaked manuscript. That’s hotter than a Paris Hilton/Perez Hilton presidential ticket.
This just verifies that she’s nothing more than a bad fanfiction writer who got lucky enough to have her drivel published. She even tantrums like they do.
Hooray for sparkles!
Stephanie is NOT acting like a child. She is NOT punishing her fans. The MAJORITY of the world loves her books, and those that do are not idiots, or stupid little girls, or whatever anyone else had to say about the fans. GROW UP people. So you don’t like the book, good for you. Go find a good book that you do enjoy!! It is immature to keep bashing the author and the book— go do something more productive with your time. TO THE FANS – I happen to be one– Steph is not trying to punish us, as she said in her comment, she just needs time to cool down, put yourself in her shoes for 2 seconds. I personally, would rather have to wait a little longer for Midnight Sun than have it soon, written by an upset Stephanie and turn out to be a bad book. Giver her a break people!
Shakra, we have every right to make fun of anyone who pulls a stunt like this. What Stephenie Meyer is doing is akin to a small child throwing a tantrum.
Also, I laugh at the notion that Midnight Sun could be anything other than a bad book.
Wonderful article as always, Kellen.
Dear Shakra—
Here is the tl;dr version for this post:
There is none, bb. You suffered through BD. This should be nothing to you. Seriously.
“Stephanie is NOT acting like a child. She is NOT punishing her fans.”
… yes. Yes she is, young naive grasshopper. You need to analyze what she says/types. Seriously. Stephenie needs to understand she is not the center of the earth. Just because the book got leaked, does not mean she should stop the world and start crying and complaining. That happens all the time. She needs to get over this. She just threw a fit and started collecting sympathy votes and fugly quilts from fan girls everywhere. She brought this on herself– she could have ignored it all, no one knew it was real (even though I was convinced after excessive uses of ‘chagrin’). The fan girls (who pride themselves in knowing everything that goes down in the Twilight universe) wouldn’t have known. But she came out and told everyone, so…
“The MAJORITY of the world loves her books,”
Um. There is 6.721 billion people in the world. Steph sold 1.3 million copies of BD. That’s like saying only 1.3 million people people give a crap about the trilogy. You do the math. I’m too lazy. All I know, is that 1,300,000 people against 6,721,000,000 people does not equal a majority.
Statistics.
Do it right.
Don’t just throw them out there and make yourself look like an idiot.
“and those that do are not idiots, or stupid little girls, or whatever anyone else had to say about the fans. GROW UP people.”
Tell that to Nuttymadam.
Seriously.
She represents the Twiligters.
You can also tell that to the people at Comic Con. Or at the New York BD tour when that girl shouted out during “My Never”. Or the backlash against the EW cover (which I was a part of, proudly. I was in full Twilighter mode back then. I used to be like you. Mmhm. Go on Urban Dictionary and look up “Twihard.” The second definition– I wrote that. That was exactly how I acted. Fortunately, I am now enlightened.)
“So you don’t like the book, good for you.”
But I do like the book, fyi.
Thank you.
I just hate Bella. With a passion.
And Edward too.
And I recognize Twilight has no plot, with BD being an epic fail.
Twilight, to me, is like chocolate. I love chocolate. But at the same time, I know chocolate is bad. And yet, I still eat chocolate. Twilight is really addicting. Literary crack. (I defined that on Urban Dictionary too! Look it up!)
“Go find a good book that you do enjoy!!”
Harry Potter.
But this fandom is funner. So much drama! There are lulz every where you turn. Heck, I still lose my mind for the movie. RPattz = love.
“It is immature to keep bashing the author and the book— go do something more productive with your time.”
I agree with you here, on the bashing the author thing.
But as for the book, we are simply telling it as it is.
& I don’t know about other BD haters, but I’m just as passionate about Twilight as you are. I’m spending my time how you spend your time.
“TO THE FANS – I happen to be one–”
Dude, you spelled her name wrong in the first quote. STEPHENIE. Not Stephanie. Aye carumba. =/
“Steph is not trying to punish us, as she said in her comment, she just needs time to cool down, put yourself in her shoes for 2 seconds. I personally, would rather have to wait a little longer for Midnight Sun than have it soon, written by an upset Stephanie and turn out to be a bad book. Giver her a break people!”
STEPHENIE.
“TRUE FAN”
YEAH RIGHT.
GRR. I KILLED A WHALE BY USING THAT PHRASE.
YOU MADE ME KILL A WHALE.
But yeah, I agree with you there a little too. Stephenie does deserve to take a break. But again, you need to analyze the paragraph she wrote up. Read it out loud, try and find the tone and crap. THINK about the paragraph. Also, you should try finding responses from other authors/musicians (no, TwilightGuy does not count. Nice try. But the articles above *the iPods, U2, Metallica. You can also Google ‘Chris Brown Electric Guitar Leak’ if that’s the kind of music you like* work.) who had their stuff leaked and compare responses. Srsly.
Erynn–
Thank you so much for you enlightening post!!! I am not going to pick upart your loooooooooooooooong response and reply to everything you said because frankly I started falling asleep towards the end, and I don’t think I could stomach reading it again– Um Seriously, you seriously are making fun of the fact that I didn’t know how to spell her name? Wow! You have made me feel really stupid (Enter Sarcasm) That does not mean I am not a true fan…. I don’t worship her.. I simply like her books and think people are going way too far with the criticism of her as a person. This artile’s main theme isn’t about the books…. It criticizes her as a person and saying that she is acting like a child, which she is not.
You contradict yourself when you agree with me that you say that she needs a break, buy at the same time she is acting like a child. You also state that it is indeed immature to bash the author but yet you DO bash her in your comment. Way to go with the contradiction again!! Also— does anyone that dislikes SM actually know her personally? How DARE does anyone make comments such as “she thinks that she is the center of the earth”, etc. when they don’t even know her…..Seriously ridiculous. Unless you are a psychic (which I personally don’t believe in anyway) you have no Idea what she is thinking or feeling!
Shakra,
“You have no idea what she’s thinking or feeling!’
Neither do you, hun.
How can you defend Meyer when you spell it out for yourself.
We Do Not Know Her.
We don’t know a thing about her except for what she chooses to tell the world.
Fans make their assumptions on her personality from interviews and writings and think they KNOW that Meyer is an awesome person. The real crazies tend to compare her to their own mother which says all sorts of disturbing things in reality.
I’m sure as shit she didn’t carry me for nine months and then bother to shove me out through her vagina. She didn’t feed me when I was hungry. She didn’t work hard every day to make sure I had a good life.
My own mother did that. Meyer gave me a few hours of eye straining entertainment so she could roll around in thousands of dollars. What has she really ever done for me that she didn’t benefit from? Does this make her a good person?
Now, I’m pretty sure you don’t go to those extremes but it’s the same idea. Chill the hell out and let the people speak their opinions. If you see a hate page and you don’t like it, go balance it out with a new fan page.
It’s all about the balance. It’s how the system works.
And even if it’s not the majority of the world loving Meyer’s work, the majority of the fans still do.
Be happy the majority didn’t turn against her.
Be happy it’s not a large group of us who prance around the internet spreading jokes and taking stabs at her reputation.
The author of this arcticle is obviously gifted in satire and has some literary analysis experience. Give her a break.
The haters have as much right to exist as those who love the books.
Just as you think our arguments and motives are stupid, we get just as worked up over yours.
People can’t all think the same way, it would be too boring. Is that what you want? For everyone to be the same and for no one to have originality and free thinking?
Now, if you bothered to read all of this one, which I’m positive you will just as I’m sure you read all of Erynn’s post and didn’t want to address what you couldn’t argue with, I hope you’ll take my advice and let the people here exist in peace.
Thanks
PopTarts
i want to be you when i grow up ♥_♥
Dear Poptarts-
Again another enlightening message! You have put me in my place dear. Thank you so much = ) (I’m just gonna go ahead and tell you that I am being extremely sarcastic right now, because I’m guessing you’re not intelligent enough to pick up on it)
You’re right, I am entitled to my opinion as well as you are to yours. My response was based off of someone attacking me because of my opinion. So do me a favor and leave me in peace and I will do the same for you! This isn’t a discussion forum- Its for people to leave their comments and TECHNICALLY (even though I’m doing this in my defense) none of the comments should be addressed to anyone else.
I love you.
And your wonderful rhetorical devices. xD
Hi. I love you more than life. You nearly made me pee myself with your EDIT. Lawl. Can we actually hang out soon?
Much love,
Colleague
Wonderful article! I agree; Stephenie is acting a bit too childish. I can understand getting angry/disappointed/sad because of a book leak, but really, does that mean she has to stop writing Midnight Sun? I think if she truly cared for her craft and her work, she would keep working on it, after editing, listening to criticism, and taking a short break.
@Shakra – Perhaps if you stated your opinion in a nicer way, without saying people who think differently from you are, “idiots, or stupid little girls,” people wouldn’t attack you? I don’t know, that’s just my thoughts. I find that people don’t like it when they’re insulted. Shocking, isn’t it?
“My response was based off of someone attacking me because of my opinion.”
I’m all for opinions, Shakra, but again, the way you worded your first opinion was bad. That’s why I jumped. Your post pretty much went downhill after “GROW UP people!” When you start attacking the people, the people bite back. Rawr.
Oh, and what I meant by “not attacking Steph” or whatever, is to not go at her religion or looks. Stuff like that. But by going around talking about how mental she was to have thought mutant babies = good… that’s another story.
She IS acting like a kid.
I guess I’ll have to be a little more blunt and just say “GTFO if you don’t like it.”
Because that’s the response I’d get if I ever posted such a hateful comment towards the writer of a Meyer Worship Page or if I told the commenters on there to ‘grow up’.
I honestly don’t know why I bother anymore. You tell us to go find a book we do enjoy and stop talking about BD and Meyer, but you can’t seem to take your own advice and stop reading and commenting on an article you that you disagree with.
See, I try to be nice and empathetic towards a cause, then all I get in return is sarcasm and yet another fangirl telling I’m an idiot.
I try and give the ‘haters’ equal footing with the fans so that maybe we both can exist in peace, each with our own pages to say what we wish, and I get shot down with faulty comments that ignore 80% of what I just said.
Is “GROW UP” really that insulting? There are far worse things that I could say, and I did not call anyone an idiot. I was referring to people calling US (the fans) idiots any time we say we like the books or defend Stephanie Meyer. Perhaps I should have directed my comment more on what the article stated, I will give you that — But if you don’t like what I have to say then you can, likewise feel free to not respond to me. = )
My main point that I was trying to make is that people are taking this WAY too far. SERIOUSLY try to put yourself in her shoes for 2 minutes…… All this backlash is starting to remind me of presedential cantidates… The opposing sides constantly trying to tear the other team down. Stephanie Meyer is not running for president. She wrote a Book that some people liked (Most people), and some didn’t. But it is going way to far (and I’m not talking about criticism as an author but as a person) People are attacking her personality, looks, religion, you name it and I find it really ridiculous. How long is this going to last.?People just need to let it go. I know some people don’t agree with this but I as a fan am not personally offended nor do I think that I am being punished by her reaction to the MS leak. She is a human being that has gotten stressed out by something that happened to her. So she needs to give herself some time to calm down… How is that childish? Who is anyone to say how she should handle what is going on in HER life. Everyone reacts differently to different things. Is it too much to ask for people to show a little human compassion and refrain from attacking her so much? ……..or does the mob need a noose?
Shakra’s wank is delicious, I hope it will last.
You people are retards for even taking the time out of your day to even give a crap about sometime you dont give a crap about get over yourselfs.
AHAHAHAA.
The end was hilarious.
x’D
GUESS WHAT?? you suck. FYI Stephenie Meyer as a writer has total control over when she wants to release her books and this was a total violation. these books have been her life for so long they are a part of her and when some freak decides to just give so much of her life away without her consent i think you would get a little messed up to. so i think you should keep your opions to youself because obviously YOU DON’T KNOW ANYTHING. at all. the end. period.
You, my friend, are awesome. I love your articles, and they renew my faith in humanity.
And I agree that she’s actung like a child. If she was a real writer, she’d just jump into Edward’s personality (which is probably hard, because he doesn’t really have one, but we won’t go into that now) and keep going. I know it’s not easy, but does my creative writing class move its due dates because my boyfriend broke up with me? No, it does not. I just have to suck it up and keep going. This is what adults do. Stephenie is not acting like an adult, she’s acting like a child. Of course, that might be because she’s trying to write as people half her age and candy-coating it, as people often do to their own experiences, but still, it’s kind of pathetic.
And I loved your edit. It made me laugh really, really hard XD!
(I appologize for the typos. I’m using an old computer and the spell check is shot)
I have positvely refused to read these books.
I’m a FEMINIST. I’ve spent YEARS of my life dealing with men who tried to manipulate me in the way that Edward attempts to control Bella. They did so because of stereotypes like Bella Swan, a weepy, needy, adoring, BRAINLESS and sniveling little girl. They didn’t know me, they saw figures like Bella Swan on TV and in books and assumed that I was like that. I can hardly blame them for treating me like an idiot when society taught them to assume that I am one through books, advertising and television. (I will say though that men, just like women, are responsible for the ways that they treat others, regardless of their influences.) I don’t blame them, but I still believe that they need to change.
How did we go from strong, intelligent women like Penelope, Elizabeth Bennet and Adah and Leah Price to Bella Swan as our standard for feminine qualities? Since when are women supposed to be unable to survive if left without men?
I am appalled by the blatent sexism shown in the novels written by a WOMAN.
I’m wondering if you’ve read the book Outlander ( I can’t remember the name of the authoress. MY GOD the woman is practically raped every few chapters and admits to being ‘possessed’ by his presence.
I hope that this is not the beginning of some awful trend.
Ha! I heard about this, and while having never read the books (i stumbled onto too many reviews while browsing the internet),i agree. It certainly doesn’t seem to be a great loss. Having “midnight sun” not published could raise the quality of literature in the world by a small fracture (in potential of course).
while reading midnight sun, i noticed that Edward as a character is supposed to be smart. i think he is smarter than Stephenie Meyer. so she just can’t pull it off.
i also am convinced that she leaked it herself. she couldn’t live with her fans worshiping everything she does.
and there was one thing that was more badly written than breaking dawn – her post about the leak on her website.
OMG you are amazing!!! I’ve read all your articles and agree completely. Personally I agree with one of my friend’s theories that she possibly leaked it herself and it makes more sense from reading this.
@Maddy
“these books have been her life for so long they are a part of her”
They have been part of her life since June 2, 2003, precisely. That is what…five years? Now (watch the fangirls go crazy), Miss JK Rowling started Harry Potter in 1995, and ended it in 2007, thats TWELVE years. And when Deathly Hallows was leaked, did she throw a hissy fit and refuse to publish it? No, it went on as planned. Now, I know that Stephenie Meyer and JK Rowling are different people, its obvious by the way they conduct themselves as authors.
“and when some freak decides to just give so much of her life away without her consent i think you would get a little messed up to.”
I bet I would, if it were just some random freak who’d crawled in my window at night, but lo and behold SMeyer gave out copies of her manuscript. She told us so. Even your Godly RPattz had a copy. She knew who leaked her manuscript, and instead of placing blame on that person and going all apeshit crazy on them, she has a diva moment. Personally, I would’ve gone apeshit crazy on whoever it was, even if it was someone I knew.
“So i think you should keep your opions to youself because obviously YOU DON’T KNOW ANYTHING.”
Now this is just nice. One, no, I will not keep my opinions to myself, because I obviously do know something. Actually, its quite a miracle that I know these things, because everyone who dislikes Twilight is more or less a gelatinous heap who just prattles on like “gabble gabble, look how fat Smeyer got.” (that’s not me, of course, thats what you think we think, which we dont. See?)
“at all.”
Sentence Fragment.
“the end.”
Wait, that’s how BD ends right, forever and ever and ever the end?
“period.”
Glad you can type during yours. I get cramps.
I found this article rather funny.
I’m a Twilight fan, too. I’m one of those crazy people who — God forbid!!! — went to a midnight release party for Breaking Dawn. and loved the book, and the twelve chapter leak. but lo and behold, i know where you’re coming from.
“EDWARD: My life is boring. Everything is boring. High school is so boring. Why bother with humans? They are so boring. I’m so superior, that even I bore myself.
[enter BELLA]
EDWARD: Everything is borin-lo! what do mine eyes behold? She is lovel-NO! The Monster wants to eat her! No, wait! I mustn’t! Let me stalk her instead!”
while i did love the leak, i must admit this is so true. I laughed so hard when I read this.
Yes, the books have their flaws, and I understand what people wouldn’t like about it. Let me make one thing clear — I’ll respect your opinion if you’ll respect mine.
I’m one of those people that think this leak was totally planned. Not only does SM have some time off the Twilight world to pursue other ideas, she now has a rabid following for MS and the BD backlash nearly quashed in one fell swoop. Rather genius, if you ask me.
I agree, it’s no big loss anyway. I read excerpts from the script and it was pretty boring. Only it was a little more tolerable because it wasn’t from Bella’s POV.
WAHT?? YOU GUYS DIDN’T LURVE BREAKING DAWN?!!!!! BAWWWWW. MEANIES. I’M GONNA TEACH YOU UNGRATEFUL FANS BY TAKING THIS ‘LEAK’ TO THE NEXT LEVVVVEEEEELLLL. MIDNIGHT SUN IS NOW POSTPONED.
I think that’s pretty much her reaction.
Ok so I am a Twilight fan.
A big one.
Yes I own the books.
Yes I am a member of the forum.
But my god your reviews entertain me.
its really not a big loss if she doesn’t continue to right the Midnight Sun.. anyway readers alredy know the ending.. so why should they have to buy another book with the same story… its just a wate of money…….
I absolutely love your articles. Although I must admit Twilight is a guilty indulgence of mine, I completely agree. After reading the first article, I was incredibly amused. Continuing on to the next article, I found it even more amusing that some people were actually getting mad at you for writing an editorial. Then again, Twilight fans can be a bit delusional at times.
Anyways, I’m mainly leaving this comment to beg you to see the Twilight movie and then write another article about it. I have the feeling that however terrible the books may be, the movie is going to be significantly worse.
I’ve read all three of your articles on the Twilight Saga–you only wrote three, right?–and I loved them! You’re absolutely hilarious.
What’s funnier, though, is the hypocrisy of some people. It always gets to me.
Anyway, that’s all I wanted to say. MC–I thought your post was hilarious! Props to you.
Peace.
I don’t think anyone of you should be criticizing SM’s Work. Yes, we all have our opinons but to bash all the books i find is rude. I am a major “book worm” and i have to say i have read a lot of BAD books in my time. SM’s Twilight series was not one of them. They gave the mind something to play with, the Vampire and gave the heart something to long for, the romance between the two. When SM wrote MS did you ever stop to think that they have similarities because Bella and Edward are alot a like. Did you EVER stop to THINK that that’s what SM was striving for. That the way they think gives them something in common.
I personally love the Twilight Series and MS. I find Edwards P.O.V clears a lot of the mystery Bella’s P.o.V hid from the reader.
When you read Twilight it never explains the exact moment when he falls in love with Bella. In MS he says all to clearly that he can’t stop avoiding her, he’s stuck…he loves her.
Twilight Fans are everywhere. Yes of course there are people like you who do not like the book. But its obvious that the majority of people who have read the book, become great fans. I went to the movie not to long ago and a Twilight Trailor came on the screen. I dont know what it said because i couldnt hear it over the screams coming from the audience. It was very alarming and i have to admit i joined in (and i’m not ashamed to say i did)
SM is a girfted writer who writes wonderful creations, straight from the imagination. The book Twilight was #1 for 15 weeks!!
And is now becoming a moive. SM has also writen another book called the host. That book is another one of my favorites and i Thoroughly enjoyed it.
I feel that the only person worthy to fully …Aloud to make comments about SM’s writing is J.K Rowling. She is the only one who can truly understand what its like to Be so Highly judge, good or bad.
So thats my opinion
SM has her own Opinion
You have your opinion
And the Rest of the Twilight Fans also have there opinion.
Christy
You spoke my mind! I’m so totally agree with you.
)
Thanks very much. I’m so glad someone spoke out. She needs a little hit on her getting-big head. (oops! am I being too frank
so i read twilight and all the other books and although i thought the last one (breaking dawn) was a complete joke, i thought the other three were at least cute, so i may be a little biased.
but like it or not, it was pretty rude what stephenie’s friend (or whoever it was she trusted) would do something like that. i keep seeing references to how music gets leaked all the time.
yeah, it does, and i love music more than anyone (or at least listen to it more than anyone) but honestly, it’s only one or two tracks, sometimes a whole album. either way, it was probably going to be released really soon anyway, but with books it’s different.
w/ breaking dawn, she didnt even edit it (i keep seeing a pile of papers screaming ‘don’t read me, i’m indecent”)
music that gets leaked is usually a full song–if it’s a demo its still pretty close
she probably wasnt planning on releasing it for a few months too
all i wanted to say is that even if stephanie was the worst writer in the world, like even if miley cyrus’ autobiography was leaked months before she was ready, i would still feel bad for her.. kind of
because it’s just different with books
^^^ oh but yeah, she overreacted just a bit
You know what’s weird? I somewhat agree with you – the Twilight books are not well-written. They are a bit trite and melodramatic. The first time I picked up the first book, I had my nose all wrinkled up by the second or third page. But you know, even with all that, they are addictive. Throw in the model of a perfect man, and you’ve got a recipe for success, lol.
On the other hand, if the the trite melodrama in the writing style were done on purpose, we might just have a genius on our hands. Think about it – the writing style is dramatic, brooding, convoluted, full of cliche, angst, pain, etc…which is pretty much exactly what a 17-year-old girl (like Meyer’s narrating character) would sound like. So my theories are, either the author doesn’t WRITE well (but is a captivating storyteller who has mastered the art of the cliffhanger), or she is an absolute master who has managed to shift her writing style to serve the narrating character. I suppose I’ll have to read Meyer’s non-Twilight books to find out…
But, in other news. I’ll definitely be reading Midnight Sun. Addictive…
You are amazing, end of story.
I know that you’ve got a growing list of admirers, but is there any place where I can sign up too? You’re writing is so thoughtful and professional, I’m 23 and would be scratching my ass for hours before producing your caliber of writing (I think my nose is getting brown). Anyway, to add to what most of the other visitors are saying, I fully agree with every flaw in the Twilight series that you’ve pointed out, and it’s so refreshing to know that there are people who find Bella as disgusting and insufferable as I do. Don’t ever worry about the shit you might be getting from SM’s dense followers; this is good practice writing, and I’m sure that you’ll be a formidable (published) writer one day : ) Oh yeah, and I totally got owned by the iPod gag in the intro : D
Uhm, can you write an op/ed on everything in the history of forever? That’d probably make my year.
I just noticed you wrote another article. If I weren’t straight, I’d totally hit on you right now.
Also, I read some of the first Twi-tard comments. God, those are always lulzy and lacking in the logic department.
While I feel bad for her because her work was leaked early, I think her reaction was a bit extreme. I myself don’t write much (I’m a math/science person) but I don’t think I would go on permanent hiatus if that happened to me. I liked your examples of what it would be like if other people who had their worked leaked to the public just quit.
“I don’t think anyone of you should be criticizing SM’s Work”-Christy
So it’s fine if you express your opinion on Twilight because you liked the series, but if someone doesn’t like it (and writes an extremely good article stating specifically why), then suddenly they’re bashing the book?! It’s very hypocritical of you to say that no one should criticize the series and imply that your opinion is the only valid one.
There’s a big difference to writing a critique on a book and bashing/flaming a book. If the woman who wrote this article was bashing the Twilight series, it would probably say something like, “These books suck and are lame and stupid and we should burn them all and Stephenie Meyer should burn in hell!!!”
Please learn the difference between a critique of a book/series and bashing/flaming.
this is hilarious – the post and the comments. i am envious of your sharp and witty comments. XD
there are people like shakra in every fandom. O_o they like to hang out at rant!communities in LJ.
the twilight series was like cocaine. once i started, i couldn’t stop. especially since i bought the next three books at the same time.
what i really think is that the story COULD have been great. there was a lot of potential in the plot.
on her reaction to the MS leak, to paraphrase one particular author, she said in a press release a few days before her seventh book went on the shelves “if you do, somehow, receive a copy before midnight, be a sport, at least, and don’t post spoilers on the forums. thank you.”
I just breezed through your posts on these books and I have to agree completely with all your points. I tried to read the first book, but I threw it down and returned it. I actually worked in a bookstore over the release of Breaking Dawn and was horrified by the aspects of the book that people enjoyed. It was all about how perfect Edward was and how dreamy Jacob is and frankly it was freaky. I’m a 21 year old woman who is in college for history and political science who has dated lots of great guys who treated me with respect. I’m also leader of a Girl Scout troop with 12 year old girls and it pains me to think that they may be reading this. Girls need to see that there is something wrong with this relationship. Maybe it could have been aved if Edward could have let her go long enough for Bella to grow up a bit, but that’s the core of the problem Bella will never grow up enough to see that she gave up everything and Edward gave up nothing.
“Edit: Just found out this article got leaked. That’s it. I’m never writing another damn word.”
HAHAHAHAAH.
Wel after reading all three of your articles on Twilight… I agree with a lot of ythings though I am a Twilight fan. Bella’s character is annoying, stupid and lacks depth and ambition! There is nothing I hate more than an non-ambitious person. But what kept me going was Edward’s charater. I found him wuite interesting at first. And then, I admit, it turned ito a sort of “crush”… well, mostly I just liked to hear him say romantic things to Bella. Because guys aren’t usually that romantic. Mind you, I’m 16 but I know this isn’t realistic. I still like it though. And I don’t hink it’s unhealthy to read it because I know that it isn’t real. I won’t expect my future husband (if I get married) to be some perfect God. *shakes head*
I never thought of the books as real litterature. Just entertainment. The Cullen family, mostly, is the only entertainign part; but hey are worth it, I think. They’re funny.
But I’m definitely not kidding myself into believing this is some sort of historic masterpiece!!
I comepletely agree on MEyer being childish witht he whole Midnight Sun issue… Geez .
Will you marry me?
You are, without a doubt, one of the funniest columnists I have ever read. Your three articles on Twilight are pure genius, especially the latest two.
Stephenie Meyer is a ten year old girl.
Stephenie Meyer is a juvenille idiot. Next.
“The MAJORITY of the world loves her books”
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAA
No, seriously, I think I broke a rib.
You are made of awesome Miss Rice.
Well, Smeyer is a ffnet writer/Deviant that got published. It makes sense that she acts as such. “Oh noes people are cruel I’m leaving forevah11!!!11″ is even in the list of How to Become a Popular Artist in DA. 8D
I love you! Your articles are fantastic, I’d rather read these three or so articles than the books they are about. Having (unfortunately) read all four books & the midnight sun leak I completely agree. They are horrid every time I see a copy of one of the books I weep for the time I’ve wasted. I can’t believe trash such as this has been published. I’m really rather glad this book hadn’t been written 50 years earlier or women would’ve never gained basic rights. Hell with a figurehead like Bella there’s a chance a an enterprising sexist could get it all undone. She’s the perfect example of the Victorian ideal, of a helpless, dainty, trophy wife. Then there’s Edward the glittering poofter, & as a fag myself I can say he’s the first thing to make me ashamed of being attracted to men in my entire life. He gives we nancy-boy flamers a bad name. As for that video of the angry British lass, she almost made me have to stop using the word wanker. Any who you’re pretty fucking marvelous.
“Edit: Just found out this article got leaked. That’s it. I’m never writing another damn word.”
Wow.
All three of your articles are so *#^$ good!
NICELY DONE!
I couldn’t agree with your response more.
While I have found myself sucked into this world of Cullens in Seattle, it stems more from my nostalgic remembrances of my past high-school goth days and Vampire: The Masqurade LARPing than actual enjoyment from Meyer’s writing style and character development.
I’ve admitted my fascination publicly but have always (and will continue) to stand by my assertion that this woman does NOT know how to write.
You are a genius, serious to say what we are all thinking, some people really need to see what’s right in front of them…
This going to all three articles.
That was the awesomest article ever, as were the previous two. I am fourteen and all the girls in my school are completely obsessed with Twilight. It’s ridiculous that a book of this quality could be this big. Honestly, the ratings for the book series were as follows: C+, C, C-, D. What the heck? Do people have no mind for literature. I’m fourteen and I read Jane Austen, not this simpering excuse for a book, with it’s flat and single mindedly obsessive characters and destruction of both basic human morality, but also the definition of the word author. She used the word “Masochist” five times in three pages (she was talking about how sacrificing Bella is, despite the fact she always gets what she wants and Edward is too “in love” (obsessed) with her to say no). How can you get off on this. This shows the degredation of the American business of editing as well. I think they might have drank some Quilquet cactus juice. And why does i matter so much to us that her book can’t be written? Oh yeah, she feels the need to share her pain with us, like she did with Bella, who is obviously a poorly masked parallel of herself, and the boy she wish she had (Edward), who gives her everything she thinks she deserves. I think she is conceited and self centered, and for all of you Twilight maniacs who are about to shout me down for insulting your Messiah, get your heads out of your Twilight Bible, burn them, and maybe the smoke will clear your heads. If you’ve read interviews with her you can see she thinks her books (and herself) are just as “amazing” as you do. Let me let you in on a secret. The space shuttle was amazing, electricity is amazing… a poorly rated book series about poorly constructed characters, by a poorly gifted writer is not amazing (oh, here’s something you should recognize, I wrote an adverb three times in a sentence, and once it wasn’t use grammatically correct!). The only thing amazing about this series is that so many people are in love with it.
Dear Twilight fans: please send me hatemail. I’m at alevron3@wowway.com. I think it would be super hilarious for you girls to send this to me. Plus it would probably get you off Kellen’s back. And I want to get into the minds of the true Twilighter (psychology project). You people crack me up, with all your pathetic excuses for the defense of a horrible book, just so you can have something to base your otherwise meaningless lives around (because you can’t let anything else in because you have to be obsessve over one particular, and unhealthy thing). Stop emulating Bella, it’s stupid. And if one post contains “Harry Potter is worse than Twilight” I’m gonna recomend you for psychological analysis. Or at least repetition of all the grades since first, since you obviously can’t read. I am not a Harry Potter fan out to get the Twilight series for taking Harry Potter’s movie day, although I do think it was pretty low, and obviously done on purpose. It’s fact. Harry Potter has alot more fans than Twilight and is better written, having consistently gotten better reviews by educated reporters. So no one start on the whole Harry Potter vs. Twilight thing because deep inside (well not that deep, you’re all shalllow idiots,) you know that it isn’t true. Anyway, please send me all your mindless drivel because I need something to laugh at seeing as Stephanie Meyer has stopped writing after her recent “tragedy”. I repeat from the girl above,
“I think she {Stephanie Meyer} is conceited and self centered, and for all of you Twilight maniacs who are about to shout me down for insulting your Messiah, get your heads out of your Twilight Bible, burn them, and maybe the smoke will clear your heads. If you’ve read interviews with her you can see she thinks her books (and herself) are just as “amazing†as you do. Let me let you in on a secret. The space shuttle was amazing, electricity is amazing… a poorly rated book series about poorly constructed characters, by a poorly gifted writer is not amazing (oh, here’s something you should recognize, I wrote an adverb three times in a sentence, and once it wasn’t use grammatically correct!). The only thing amazing about this series is that so many people are in love with it.”
Tee hee.
OMGWTFBBQ! you are amazing. if i wasn’t straight, i’d totally ask you out.
Your articles sum up everything there is to say about Twilight. And i’m laughing as i read all the comments “OMG U CAN’T HAV AN OPINION, UR RONG, SM ROX, Y R U WASTING UR TIME IF U DON’T LIKE TEM!” I love all the contradictions; they make me happy. I love that they think you give a @#$! that they hate you and your opinions. Keep writing, and if you ever publish something (or get a weekly column in a newspaper on literary criticism) i’ll be first in line to read.
“EDIT: Just found out this article got leaked. That’s it. I’m never writing another damn word.” Insert rib-cracking laughter from me.
I’ve read your other articles on twilight and I love your bravery. Every time someone says something bad about twilight or Stephenie Meyer it’s like a sin. Hello people it’s a freaking book, it’s not even real and they go completely rabid about it. I think it’s a disease (Twilight dissotive Attitude Disorder) I’ve read all of the books and there’s some parts I like and some parts I dont. But the writing is confusing and it feels like I have to walk through mud to understand some parts of it. I mean seriously how many adjetives do you need to describe a guy? We get it he’s like perfect- except from the stalker tendecies, and the whole sucking someone’s blood thing. Yeah he’s a great guy to introduce to your folks (Mom and Dad meet my boyfriend he’s a vampire but don’t worry he’s a good one and by the way he’s going to kill me and turn me into one isn’t that great?) I love your articles, so please keep on writing.
THANK YOU for writing this.
you shook me out of the haze. I learned my lesson about falling in love with fictional Characters from LOTR- it sucks you life.
but i still enjoyed twilight and did not recognize the abusiveness of the relationships (although I did think edward was being Very over protective and somewhat irrational)
i am going to see if I can get my sister to read your pieces.
she adores Jacob Black.
Your postings are too infrequent. I request that you rectify this issue posthaste.
/I think I need more out of context adjectives in there…
You are my heroine beyond all others. After totally spurning your advances, we will couple randomly under a tree in a sylvan glade and spawn a demon child that will break your pelvis but give you broken pelvis super powers. After fighting this infantile behemoth, I will spurn you again and you’ll make out with some hairy wolf dude and I’ll write an entry in LiveJournal about it and somehow you’ll end up in my arms again because hey let’s face it I’m a badass.
That being said, 1. I am the king of run on jibberish and 2. Well thought out series of articles on Meyer.
I agree completely. Meyer can’t write any better than a four-year-old can. Her story has absolutely no plot. It’s like she just got up one day and said “I think I’d like to write a novel”, and just starting typing/writing. It’s ridiculous. And Bella does the same thing everyday. It’s so monotonous. She gets up, gets ready for school, rides with Edward, goes to a boring school, comes home, cooks, does her homework like a good little girl, and sleeps with her boyfriend behind daddy’s back. [Not sleeping as in sex, but the literal kind.] Oh, and naughty little demon hoe-bag Bella for tempting Edward. I mean, I don’t agree with pre-martial sex, but they made Bella out to be a whore looking for a good lay. I think Bella is the number one worst example for a heroine, however. She’s useless, whiny, and needy. She doesn’t do anything on her own, and she treats everyone like they’re beneathe her. And Edward has to save her everyday from some new, plot-less catastrophe. And Edward himself is a disaster. He’s physically “perfect”, but I think he’s mentally unstable. He’s like a controlling, jealous, freak. I hate this series, and I fail to see how people think it’s so “good”.
God, I hate Meyer.
Meyer needs less QQ more pew pew.
And…this blog rocks.
I totally agree with you. SM is a crappy writer and I have no idea why people like her books. Her characters are pretty bleh. I mean Edwards an effing God isn’t he? He’s rich, smart, charming, smells good, blah, blah, blah. I actually thought he was more of a sissy rather than ‘sensitive’.I thought it would have been much cooler if he was actually an evil vampire and wanted to drink Bella’s blood and then they fell in love (somehow…)
What I really didn’t like (and I don’t know if anyone noticed because the people I talked to didn’t) was that they fell in love sooo fast. After their first effing conversation Bella’s all ‘Oooo! I can’t live without him!’ And I don’t understand why he finds her interesting. She seems pretty boring to me…
Honestly I think and teenage girl could have thought of the same plot line. Maybe not the vampire part but the basic idea.
Girl moves to new town, she thinks she’s sooo average, girl meets guy, guy never met a girl like her before (so dumb), fall in love (way too fast) and live happily ever after. Bleh.
I wouldn’t want to read MS because if she’s made Bella this annoying, I really don’t want to get into Edward’s mind. I agree with Psychotic Raccoon. I think the leek was planned. Don’t know why though.
Why are you so brilliant?
You don’t happen to be single….? Because I think I’m in love.
This is genius. Did maureen dowd teach you how to write?
I have no real comment on the literary girth of the novels. I really have no great authority on determining great literature. On a personal note, I liked the first 12 chapters of Midnight Sun. I got a kick out of Mr. Perfect Edward feeling imperfect. I only want say kudos to Smeyer who taught 14 year olds words like chagrin. Come on, do you believe these kids didn’t need to check the dictionary after reading it?
I love this! My personal pet theory is that she leaked the manuscript herself for attention. The timing of the leak and subsequent actions just make me think that it was planned by her. Whatever it is still hilarious!
I typed up a great comment for you but I ran to get a drink and when I came back it had been leaked. I have lost my will to comment, so I’ll just say this…
You’re my hero (the non abusive kind)!
People, Stephenie’s story got leaked, that is not only a perfect picture of greed and another reason not to trust people all the time, but it is sad. It is sad thing, but nothing new and nothing Meyer should have been shocked and amazed about. Besides, what’s the point? Anyone who liked the series will still buy the book–it is ONLY a retelling of the same story from a different point of view. Even someone who happened upon an entire leaked book and loved would buy the real one out of faith. What fan (and if you apply, please respond) is going to feel ANY different about the series if you happened upon a leaked part of it?
Mrs. Meyer got a leaked book but she has a lot of money to fall back on and buckets more pouring in. People are crying for her like it is some kind of national tragedy. Someone out there is losing their home, their job, a loved one–where is their support, their care package, and their video made of comfort? The only problem she needs to have is with who ever leaked it. Stephenie over reacted and she played the damsel in distress role very well but besides the trust between her and some other person–nothing was damaged. It was the greed of another person that hurt her, that reaction is something that should come from the hurt of someone being critical about your work. I think she should be flattered by some degree, someone cared about this. Artist’s work is stolen (completely) all the time, she just got a small taste of how nasty and selfish people can be.
HAHAHAHAH. I heart you.
Thank you so much for this article, and the others. I have friends reading the Twilight series, and I can’t understand why. The first time I read the books was before I was ever in a real relationship, and afterward, I realized that Bella/Edward’s was just unhealthy. These books not only encourage women to be helpless and pathetically dependent on men, but make men think that women want them to be controlling and condescending, so long as they’re ‘hot’.
Sickening.
Ok, so I’ve been reading your articles and hearing your point of views and I totally disagree with them, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just think that you should leave Stephenie Meyer alone. It’s her book not yours and she just doesn’t feel like continuing it because something hurtful was done to her. If and when she continues it her fans will love it more for being patient, and if it gets her another truck load of cash, good for her. She didn’t physically force anyone to buy her books. My gosh people find other things to do than bash books. If you don’t like it…pick up another one with an author that appeals to you.
This thread is made of 100% win. I heart it so much.
Brav-fucking-o.
@people who think we shouldn’t be mean to Smeyer: Why not? If I can’t be mean, you can’t be nice. Then it’s even.
Great article, by the way. Bad things happen; get over it. Although, now I see where Bella gets it: Edward leaves her, she stops talking to people or doing anything. Anything bad happens to Smeyer, she throws a hissy fit and stops doing anything, also.
PS. I really enjoy all the silly fans who love it so much and think Bella and Edward’s relationship is healthy and twu luv. I can’t wait for reality to bitch-slap them in the face. It will be so amazing.
duh if you really don’t like the novel why do you keep on reading this series??
Well, Hico, because she has an opinion and you can’t stop people from voicing out their opinion. It’s in the 1st Amendment.
You have yours and she has hers. You can’t just tell her to stop criticizing about it. It’s her opinion. If you want to talk about how much you love Twilight and why you shouldn’t, go ahead. No one’s stopping you.
Kellen, I’m sorry to hear that you won’t be writing any more. Would you like me to send you a care package? I’m pretty broke, but I think I could gather up some crackers and juice boxes and stuff.
Actually, I really hate myself for how much your reviews of Twilight crack me up. I haven’t read it yet, but the one paragraph that I read from your “how to write a bestseller” article left me feeling a tad queasy, like I’d eaten some overly sweet candy. And I keep thinking that if I were an undead 100 year old, I would not want to be hanging out with high school students. They would seem…oh, I don’t know…a tad immature? Like I was a perv for wanting to boff someone young enough to be my great-great-grandchild? Or as a friend of mine said, you’d more likely be at the bar saying “for the love of God, here’s my ID. I’m 100 years old! Just give me a damn beer already!” rather than hanging around the high school trying to get a date to the prom.
In all fairness, at the age of 14 or 15 I probably would have loved this series. But being far closer to 45 the appeal of such things has lessened considerably.
I have read the Twilight Series, before it became this over rated.
I liked it at first, but i was never smitten by Edward Cullen. I viewed the book as an okay love story, it was nothing compared to the works of Nicholas Sparks and Danielle Steel, but its not that bad.
But now, I am ashamed to admit that I have read it and liked it. T_T
Everywhere I go, there is a least 2 or 3 girls screaming “OMG I WANT MY OWN VAMPIRE!”
Hilarious as it may seem, its one of the reasons why I don’t like the series anymore.
Great reviews on Twilight. xD
I have to say that i agree with you.
YOU ARE SO RIGHT KELLEN!
This article is exactly how I feel about Stephanie Meyer’s fit. At first, I loved the Twilight Series, but now? I absolutely loathe it. Everyone who loves Twilight, doesn’t know true reality. The whole book just goes, “blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!!!”
I hope Stephanie Meyer never finished Midnight Sun. I don’t want another “Twilight” frenzy at my high school. Being a high school girl, I’m constantly surrounded by girls in love with the book. I used to have a thing for Edward Cullen, but that kid from Harry Potter that played him, totally killed my crush for him. Rupert Grint is much cuter anyhow.
Your article is 100% true!
Mistake:
I hope Stephanie Meyer never finshes Midnight Sun.
Again Kellen, I love this article.
My mom thought that SM might have leaked it on purpose as a way to make up for the lack of love with Breaking Dawn.
I might just have to agree with her.
SM is being childish and ruined the story for everyone else that didn’t even know it was leaked until she told us.
Yeah, I love your articles.
You are just EPIC. EPIC.
End of discussion.
“Edit: Just found out this article got leaked. That’s it. I’m never writing another damn word.”
THANK YOU.
You people should stop comparing her to other books and just read the other books. If you hate Twilight so much STOP READING IT!!! I find it utterly retarded, stupid, and exhausting (in that order) at how you constantly compare and say: this book is better and this book isn’t as good as… Just go read another book……douche bags. Oh and for the 14 year old who says she reads Jane Austen, no one gives a damn, just because you read Jane Austin doesn’t make you a freaking genius. Go write ur own book and stop wasting ur breathe.
I love your style of writing! I chuckled like an idiot while reading it. I had the exact same reaction to Meyer’s decision to put her writing on hold. It’s understandable that she is upset, especially due to the fact that a close friend leaked it (talk about betrayal), but she is obviously pandering to her fans. What could be better for business than millions of people desperately awaiting your next move?
I do, however, disagree with your description of Bella as a “Mary Sue.” It’s the other way around, of course. Although Edward has many flaws, including his abusive tendencies, Meyer just makes them part of his perfection. Edward, even when doing wrong, is doing right, according to the author.
I have read all of the books, including the leaked excerpt from Midnight Sun, and enjoyed them despite their flaws. For me, at least in the earlier books, it is just too obvious that Meyer is an amateur. I actually believe you can see her skills improving through the books, as evidenced by Jacob’s narration. I enjoy the books in the same way I enjoy a good supermarket novel. They’re fun to read on a lazy day, but they’re not literature.
Thank you, your articles are all extremely amusing
I am still laughing at your article. No, not because I am one of those rabids that spend their time dissing anti-Twilighters (you know who you are!) on websites just to defend a “love” story between a clumsy, whiny, and all around IDIOTIC girl and an abusive, arrogant, demonic VAMPIRE.
No, I am laughing because you and your delicious sarcasm have once again stood for the voice of reason. You saw Midnight Sun for what it was and so did the rest of the people who saw the fluff that is Stephanie’s Meyer “talent.” (If you can even call it that)
And you reading Midnight Sun was pretty brave of you, I must say. I read three pages before I had to stop. I simply could not do it. (And here the rabids well descend: HOW DARE U?!?!?!? HOW CAN U INSULT A BOOK IF U HAVENT EVEN READ IT!??!!?) I believe I can trust you enough that I shall take your plot summary as the acutal plot.
Wait, Meyer with a plot? Now that is laughable.
I’ve read through all of your articles (except the movie review because I refuse to see the movie, so don’t care much for the reviews of it) and I have to agree with everything you say.
While I love the universe that Meyer created (Vampires are my favorite legendary ‘creature’ for lack of a better word and I like her interpretation of them), I found Bella and Edward to be so static and flat. Their actions are predictable and boring and the characters I found myself falling in love with were Jasper and Emmet, minor characters with not enough ‘screen time’.
I have debated long and hard with my friends that Edward is a terrible match for Bella and that Jacob should have won, hands down. I hate how Meyer plays him out to be a villain in New Moon and I hate how he looses out in the end because of the stupid imprinting. It seems like it was a quick wrap up so that everyone could live happily ever after and the tension between Edward and Jacob could go away so Mary Sue Bella could have everything she ever wanted. Sigh. How sweet.
I also agree that the part of the book told from Jacob’s point of view was the best written. I didn’t realize how much i disliked Bella until I got MAD at the book when it switched back. I kept looking for a way to finish the book from Jacob’s POV and i was stuck in Bella’s whiny head and almost gave up. It took me forever to finish the book from there and by the time the end of the book came around I had to force myself to finish it.
I haven’t read Midnight Sun and the idea of the book was really appealing when I first read Twilight because I was so infatuated with the characters. As the books went on, I grew to dislike Edward and his terrible treatment of Bella and I don’t care if Meyer never publishes Midnight Sun.
I do, however, encourage you to read The Host. I have only just begun it and it holds a lot of promise so far. Since it is not written for teenage fan girls I hope it will be much better and the ,ain characters will be far more developed (because I think it is silly to have minor characters with more personality than the protagonist. I mean seriously. The plot is supposed to encourage character development and at the end of 4 books Bella is still a whiny, weak, mary sue? Come on).
Hey, I’m Harley, I live in England, and I’m 12 years old.
Anyone who hates these books, fuck off and get a life. Seriously, if you don’t read these books, your brain isn’t functioned properly (Hey assholes, insert snide remark here).
And Kellen, I’m not familiar with your articles, but reading your determined Twilight-bashing filled pieces of crap, I get the idea that you really can’t accept that there are much better writers out there than you. That they got their millions by creativity and brains and intelligence, while you got your five-figure salary by being disgustingly sarcastic and unappreciative. So Kellen, you can sit there writing your so-called ‘witty’ articles with your finger up your arse, but us true Twi-hards will ALWAYS be better than you.
And by the way Kellen, everytime you masterbate, Chuck Norris punches a Mexican baby in the face, so think about that before you retire to your bathroom tonight.
Thanks.
YOU FUCKING SUCK
Twilight is the best book ever written. Go back to your fucking SHAKESPEAR or ORWELL or wahtever dinosar shit u liek. you are the gayest person ever. Stephanie Meyer is the best author in american history. Not like shaksepear who was just an over the top moron or orwell who was to stupid to understand how complexe writing should be. have you ever read 1984? it’s simplistic bullshit. I dare you to read 1984 and then Twilight and tell me orwel is beter. YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON AND I HOPE YOU DIE OF AIDS. I BET YOU”RE AN ATHIEST TWO YOU FUCKING HEATHAN. YOU’RE GOING TO HELL.
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WE MORMONS WILL RULE THE WORLD AND KILL ALL YOU ATHIEST FUCKS
Okay. First lets start off by I’m not trying to insult anybody. But since you cant please everybody. -shrugs-
I thoroughly enjoyed your point of view and passion you threw into this series of article.
I am, however, happen to love Twilight. Now before you get all excited about the many nasty words you’ve heard too many times. I am not here to bash you. Simply maybe giving you a different point of view.
When I first read the series. I did exactly what I did with Harry Potter. I read the second one first. I’ve always been a little bit of an impatient reader so reading the second book of the series has always worked for me.
I read it as a love story. I read it as a love conquers all kind of way. I didn’t actually read the first book until breaking dawn came out.
Then as the story went on I found that I liked Edward less and less. But I loved the idea of Edward. And I definitely disliked Edward after he wouldn’t allow Bella to see Jacob. That down right is not acceptable by any standards.
Now lets bring our attention to the “idea” of Edward. or Maybe better said how I perceived him to be. Over protective, tragically in love and sincere.
He was willing to do anything to protect Bella. From anything.. he fought back his temptation just to be with her. To keep her safe.
It was written as an epic love story. And it got the audience it deserved. Even if your imagination has to play fill in the blank.
you totally rock!
i worship every article you write about twilight.
if i were a teenager i would devote you a shrine fansite!
meyer has created some of the worst female characters EVER.
and that in the year 2008…
emancipation? female rights movement? riot grrrls? …..seem it didn’t happen for meyer.
the copious amount of abusive scenes??
control, rape-kissing, a father that defends the guys behaviour against his own daughter? (“oh, come on, don’t be sooo frigid, bella, jacob is only a kid”)
…. this cannot be happening in american popular literature of today.
Harley’s comment made me laugh. So hard. And cry, just a bit, for the sake of humanity. If this is the state of children today…
Harley dear, maybe, just maybe you didn’t know, but people have these things. They’re called OPINIONS. Last time I checked England was not a fascist state, and people are actually allowed to hold these OPINIONS and *GASP* have different tastes in books.
Outrageous, I know.
Honestly, as young as you are I have to wonder how you’re going to get through life. If you can’t deal with someone disliking a book you like without ridiculous ad hominem attacks and nonsensical insults, how are you going to deal with someone who doesn’t like the same flavor of ice cream as you? Someone who doesn’t like the same subjects in school as you. Or, gods forbid, someone in a different political party.
Quote this comment if you think Harley needs to shut the fuck up.
Quote this comment if you think Harley needs to shut the fuck up.
Quoted.
Good.
Thats all I can say.
Quote this comment if you think Harley needs to shut the fuck up.
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Hey Harley, I’m 15, I live in England and I think you’re a troll. I’m delighted at the quality of your trolling, though, so I’ll continue.
“Anyone who hates these books, fuck off and get a life. Seriously, if you don’t read these books, your brain isn’t functioned[sic] properly”
I don’t like Twilight. In fact, I hate Twilight! It’s really poorly written. The only deeper meanings are psychological abuse, paedophilia and Mormon propaganda.
Now that that’s out the way, I guess your insinuation that people who can recognise poorly-written rubbish when they read it have no lives has no basis – unless, of course, you think the dead have a preference to reading material. I’m also interested that you think Twilight should be mandatory reading for everyone ever, or they could stand a chance of their brain not being “functioned[sic]” properly. Do you think that there needs to greater awareness of psychological abuse in the media? It’s an interesting viewpoint; but it does seem to be in poor taste that it’s dressed up as a romance novel.
“And Kellen, I’m not familiar with your articles, but reading your determined Twilight-bashing filled pieces of crap, I get the idea that you really can’t accept that there are much better writers out there than you. That they got their millions by creativity and brains and intelligence, while you got your five-figure salary by being disgustingly sarcastic and unappreciative. So Kellen, you can sit there writing your so-called ‘witty’ articles with your finger up your arse, but us true Twi-hards will ALWAYS be better than you.”
Look, there’s a saying: “walk a mile in a man’s shoes before you criticise him”. This means DO YOUR RESEARCH. Examples of research in this case could be: a) reading Miss Rice’s other articles, b) finding out what she actually earns and c) reading someone other then Meyer. Maybe someone who knows what they’re doing?
Making “vampires” sparkles is not shockingly creative. Binjas are creative. Nation is creative. Sandman is creative. Meyer vomits outdated clichés onto a page, rapes a thesaurus and then calls it a book. That’s a creative joke, but her trolling doesn’t seem to have been realised.
What, by the way, is “so-called witty”? If I describe child abuse as witty, does that make it so? If I stabbed someone, the whole laughing at my wit, is it the joke of century? A good indicator of wit – if you’re not aware of this – is that people are amused by it. Read the comments. You’re part of a minority.
I will saying nothing about “finger up [her] arse” other then it’s an odd turn of phrase, as typing and most forms of writing are better achieved with both hands. Your delusions of grandeur (what, perchance, makes you better then her? Inability to understand deeper meanings? Likelihood to viciously attack all those who dare express other opinions? First up against the wall when the revolution comes) are slightly sickening. Relax. This is the internet. No one will take you seriously if you behave like that, let alone acknowledge your self-proclaimed superiority.
“And by the way Kellen, everytime[sic] you masterbate[sic], Chuck Norris punches a Mexican baby in the face, so think about that before you retire to your bathroom tonight.”
This is bizarre. Good trolling, though.
to the so called “BOOKWORMS”, can you really be bookworms and still enjoy Meyers crap?
yeah, fairly addictive, I’ll give her that, but to go as far as protecting those crap books? that’s going too far…..
the reviews and everything else pinned everything about the books almost perfectly.
a little too much sarcasm but still XD
Quote this comment if you think Harley needs to shut the fuck up.
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Triple fucking quoted.
I’m commenting because it appears that everyone so far is a radical– either wholeheartedly for Rice and against Meyer or wholeheartedly against Rice and for Meyer.
I’d first like to say that I loved the first two articles on Twilight. They captured my thoughts and feelings on the books perfectly, right down to the scathingly skeptical commentary. It was amusing.
But I have to say I do not agree with this particular article. I read the statement on S. Meyer’s website and while it did initially seem an overreaction, rereading has led me to conclude that she truly was personally hurt. She says that she knows exactly who leaked the story out of her circle of trusted confidantes– a situation that would leave anyone a bit bruised or vindictive. In her place, I’m not certain I would react any better. Furthermore, the wording in the statement indicates not an intention to quit writing forevermore, as you all believe, but rather a “cooling off” period so as not to taint the tone of the book thus far. It seems reasonable enough to me.
So while your last two articles and the Twilight movie review were just that — reviews, with valid points– this appears to be nothing more than slander on a person in duress. Humorous, of course, but it’s a bit like laughing at retards: really mean and ultimately pointless.
Regardless of whether or not you or anyone else likes the series, the fact remains that Meyer has done something countless other authors have aspired to do and failed. She has inspired her readers. Perhaps the literary quality isn’t quite that of say, Jane Austen, but then, our average society isn’t quite as well read as theirs either. Stephenie Meyer deserves at least a modicum of respect for this.
Her books still suck, though.
i disagree
because i am a teenager on hormones and what-not
but your writing it hilarious and makes me want to read more…
even though…
(i think) i disagree
Quote if you think the rabids need to stop with all the flames!!
I really do not get why SMeyer feels the need to write Twilight all over again, but then slap a cryptic title on it (Midnight Sun? I though this book takes place is Oregon not Alaska!).
For fans it will be an insight into the mind of Edward Cullen and that should be rather interesting to see… but why even buy it? You know what happens, you know how the book ends… what more do you really need?
That article, and the two preceding it….were amazing. Magical. Beautiful. Entrancing, and dare I say…Sparkly?
Your articles have properly captured everything that is wrong (which is everything) with the TS.
Now, I have read the offending novels, before you decide you don’t like something you should at least give it a chance, right? So, being privvy to the VERY detailed, complicated and DEEP goings on of this book I should be entitled to bash it. A priviledge I enjoy daily. It was very poorly written,(not to mention grossly inaccurate…) and thus deserves a metaphorical kick in the ribs.
That said however, I know people who greatly enjoy the novels and though I go out of my way to taunt them, I also realize that people DO have the right to their own opinions and deserve to be able to air them. Twihards cannot expect to be allowed to run ammok, posting (and screaming loudly in hallways while people are trying to finish tests!) about how MARVELOUS Twilight is, without realizing people who don’t enjoy the books are going to be just as vocal.(But not in hallways, we hope.)
On the matter of Midnight Sun, I can see how Smeyer could be upset, but, really, stopping the production of something that she is well aware is very important to her fan base (AKA the people who, um are the only reason she is succesful, as they are the ones who buy her merch) is childish, unprofessional, and manipulative to say the least.
…And my moneys on RPattz for the leaked manuscript. He’s just awesome enough to do it.
You are god. Seriously. Thank you so much for saying everything I’ve wanted to say about these stupid books.
I had no idea that she decided not to write Midnight Sun. But it’s amusing to see why she decided not to. I would have ventured to guess she read her own series over and realized what utter crap it was. But that’d probably be giving Meyers too much credit.
And thank you so much for saying things in the other articles about the abusive relationship Bella/Edward/Jacob have. I was hoping I wasn’t the only one who noticed it. Unfortunately I have a lot of friends who adore the books and they all told me I was paranoid.
Anyway, amazing articles! Thank you so much for sharing your opinion! I’m so glad I’m not alone!
Bawwww my comments are getting leaked to other websites! I’ll never write another comment for as long as I live! Bwaaaaaaaah!
I swear your articles are lulz. Please write more. For the great justice that is the English language please for god sakes write more!
I don’t know why this is a big deal.
It’s possible that she’ll continue writing it.
It might not be what you’re gonna like,
But a LOT of people out there love the series.
Seriously,
If you don’t like something,
Just keep your mouth shut.
Another thing,
If you didn’t like the series,
Why did you even read them?
This is your fault.
If you didn’t like them in the first place,
You shouldn’t care about things like these.
Call me a b****,but at least I’m speaking my mind,so
F*ck all of you out there who don’t like the series.
Go to hell.
Caryll, we’re not allowed to vocalise our dislike of the “Twilight” series, but you can raise hell over a blog?
The irony is killing me.
Caryll, while it’s true that some Twilight fans may be offended by the reviews that Miss Rice made, I’m pretty sure that saying “F*ck all of you out there who don’t like the series” is pretty offensive, too. Not everyone loves Twilight as much as you obviously do, so please just stop putting down and insulting those who don’t.
When I heard that Stephanie Meyer wasn’t going to release Midnight Sun because of a leak, I thought it was a joke. Seriously. I didn’t think something like a leak would make her stop writing. I do appreciate that the leaking of one’s work can be embarrasing or hurtful, but seriously, I don’t think it’s a good enought reason to stop writing.
I love your reviews! I was honestly horrified that Jacob became such an asshole in the third book. I adored him in New Moon then… I read Eclipse. I mean, jeez! Who the hell forces someone to kiss them? Rapists? Sadists? But then for Bella to suddenly realize she loved him in the middle of the kiss. That takes the cake.
I love Emmett, Jasper and Alice though. Emmett and Jasper are like the big brothers I’ve always wanted and Alice would make such a great friend, don’t you think?
I actually read the books because I was curious and since I am a romantic. If it’s a love story, give it to me and I’ll read it, no matter how unoriginal the plot, no matter if there are crappy characters and stupid dialogue. That’s just how I am.
I actually liked the first one, because it wasn’t as nauseating as the others, but New Moon was a different story. Bella was just so annoyingly obssessed. All that “I want to do dangerous thing so that my hallucination would come back” crap was so disgusting. Also, her fixation on being older that Edward is stupid. HE IS MORE THAN A CENTURY OLD, BELLA. GET OVER IT. Highlight of that book was Jacob, hands down.
Eclipse, all I have to say is WHAT THE HELL?! Jacob, what the heck happened to you?? As mentioned earlier, he was such an asshole. Then again, Edward was an asshole in this one, too. He talked about the wedding and being engaged knowing that jacob could hear? Who does that?!
Breaking Dawn. Dear God. Sex scenes in books for teens is stupid. It’s basically encouraging the teens who read the book to marry after graduating then have sex. And Edward CHEWING the baby out? Gross.
I don’t want to anger anyone, and congratulations to Stephanie Meyer for having such a fanbase. But seriously, this series was just wrong. On so many levels.
Keep writing, Kellen!
first! i have to say its hilarious we have the same name yet completely different opinions oh well i do respect yours.
to all people like shakra david ebert and harley…i agree with you to a level!! why drag this dilemma out??? people here are just speaking their minds like me. It isnt really fair to judge them when they are giving their own opinion. people may say i am a hypocrite because i am actually dragging this out to but oh well i still wanted to put my opinion out there.
Although i completely disagree with these articles [but still read them!!! again hypocrisy] i will not send hatemail or say rude things because it is your opinion.
kellen
also kellen….
you have made me rethink the whole midnight sun dilemma…….im starting to think it was stunt!!!! anyways i will still hope for her to publish the book
I love you! This article, as well as your previous ones, was amazing! Whenever people ask me why I don’t like the books I can never really spell it out, but this series of articles has really helped me articulate what I don’t like about the books! Thanks a lot!
Ok, I only whole heartedly agree on one thing I read after reading 3 of your Twilight reviews. You should never write another word. At least not about Twilight. I agree, literary needs to be critiqued…but is such harshness necessary?
Also…you really need to write three articles about the same thing? I think thats a tad obsessive. Sounds like your jealous of some people’s success. The bitterness is so apparent…it screams “IT’S NOT FAIR!”. You want literary success? YOU go out and write novels (however you would like to) that appeals to a large fan base. YOU get it published. The path to literary success is not to bash an author of a novel you don’t particularly care for. That will get you no where.
Haha. I loved this.
Dont get me wrong, I loved Midnight Sun and the Twilight series but Stephenie Meyer acted very childish and pouty. I may love her books but her as a person…not so much.
thank you Madelin.
Isn’t it clear why S. Meyers is so upset?
If it was any other book that has fourteen or more chapters, of which 12 chapters could leak, nothing would be lost – the big, surprising conclusion that nobody really anticipated or imagined was yet to come.
Yet, with anything from the Twilight series, where there is no consistent plot, no real climaxes and certainly no turning point, a leak of twelve chapters equals the leak of an entire book. She might as well leave it at that – it’s not like anything would be missing if they published only those twelve chapters.
Lol, not yet read midnight sun i did say i wanted another book but it seems that most of the book has leaked onto the internet…piece of advise
-tweek the 12chapters
-add some more chapters
-big climax for me
-Nessy & Jacobs part of the book.
Also your growing on me :O. Stop it.!.;)
Omg i was reading some comments and ady, very funny.!.
Hey what does “website” do?
Minnie you are so right
wow now everyone has issue’s!!!!
Emmet, Jasper and Alice were the three characters that stuck to their plot…
Jacob was like most interesting until he became an asshole but i thought he was more mean when he was ignoring her, i was like shut the hell up Jacob ¬¬
Then he kissed her and at first it was annoying then she liked it then she punched him a broke her hand
I always liked him because he helped Bella in New Moon and because he was without a doubt hotter than Edward
But when he was making her choice between him and Edward i hated Edward for one making Jacob angry and two he didn’t but up much of a fight and she still had abuses sex then his baby.
Oh btw im going to read that leak and come back to you guys on this
TTYL x
Ha. I read most of the coverage on the Twilight books, and i have one thing to say. While i completely agree with all the points made about Bella’s personality, or lack thereof, I believe that it is a stroke of genius. If Bella had any charisma whatsoever, teenage girls everywhere wouldn’t be able to project themselves onto her, and that is where Twilight’s success lies. In daydreams of sparkly vampires.
Wow, I completely agree with you, in this and your other articles. When I heard about the leak and how she just decided to stop writing, I immediately lost all respect I had for her. (Yes I do admit it, I am sort of a fan.) I was just shocked that anyone would react that way, it was extremely childish and immature. I didn’t even know about the other things made to comfort her. When I saw those, *shudders* ugh… I understand that they’re fans and all, but that is just appalling. Thanks to you earlier article though, I can now write a glorious and dazzling book like Stephenie Meyer and become famous! Thanks so much for you help!
This really is an amazing little forum. I think it’s very heart-warming to see how outspoken Meyers’ fans are; to protect and stand up for her here of all places. It was also very informative to read the other responses of those who agree whole heartedly with you.
Personally, after reading all four books (and a few chapters of MS) I was interested to hear a voice such as yours for the contrast. Thanks for posting, between your articles and their comment lists, it’s given me much to think about.
ok, so I get it… a lot of people are hating on twilight, and yes, it is all a bit much, but here’s the thing: it’s a girly romance thing. what in god’s name is wrong with that???????????? yes, she does get a little too “prosy” (I made the word up) but it’s sweet in a stalkerish kind of way.
I am 32, and I personally loved the series, I was dissapointed in breaking Dawn, there should have been more but overall, Meyer could only see through her tween glazed eyesight.
and her reaction to having her work leaked was justified. She wrote it, and if I wrote something and everyone got a hold of it, before some much needed editing I’d be pissed too! I’m a non published writer and before any of you blast me, i actually focus on horror erotica, and historical fiction, am currently working on getting in grad school and yes, my love of chic-lit drives me. Jane Austen, the Bronte sisters but I also enjoy marquez, Allende, Neruda, Garcia, Shakespeare, and Orwell to name a few. I love Burmese days and How to shoot an elephant wasa an amazing short story. so please do not insult my love of this series y insulting my intelligence.
The series is cute fluff. PERIOD. just let the kids and us tween romance lit lovers enjoy it. she didnt try to pawn it off as a modern day literary masterpiece of world renown. get over yourselves, it’s romance. and just to be clear Edward is not abusive, he comes from an era where men were overly protective because they are coming out of the Victorian era. GEESH!
I have found my faith in humanity again, and it comes from this article as proof that there is a human being left on this planet with common sense. As a note to all Twilighters out there, yes, I have read the series (no matter how much I regret it), and I know how hard it is to write any form of literature. If anything, it’s harder now because all you need is to type the word “vampire” and out come the comparisons on how Twilight is better. Yeah, life is *so* hard for poor Ms. Myer. I mean, she’s only ridiculously famous, has enough money to never work another day, and met so much resistance when she first tried to get published.
You want “to sad about what has happened”? Try being unceremoniously shipped off to shcool where you know absolutely no one (newsflash: people don’t give a s*** about the new kid, trust me, I know), separated from the friends you’ve known since first grade, *and* maintaining your writing and a 3.9 GPA. With all due respect to Meyer and all the Twilighters, cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it, because your reality check? It just bounced.
If anyone needed any more reason to believe that Bella-sue was a self-insert character for SMeyer, I think this little tantrum of hers works pretty well. What was it that Bella-sue did when she was upset and dealt with it irrationally? Oh right, the whole jumping-off-a-cliff/attempt-to-drown-herself thing…I’d recommend that Mr. Meyers hide the car keys if they live within driving distance to a large body of water…although seeing as how the entire series is a self-insert for her life, I’d wager her car was curiously devoid of a working engine already…
Another fantastic article Ms. Rice! Like another poster said, these articles are a part of the very few pieces of sanity and decency left in the wake of the Twilight plague. I frequently come back to read them, and the positive comments written on them, whenever I feel that humankind has let me down through fangirls (of all ages, because yes, though very disturbing, older women *are* capable of squeeing as loudly as 12 year olds and defending the abusive acts of a non-character). Thank you a million times! I can’t wait to read your next articles!
I loved all your articles.They’re amazing and hilariously true. I’ve read the books and while I was reading them I loved them, but when I stopped I was like “WTF? Why did I Like this crap?”
And to the whole “stop bashing S.Meyer issue” I think Meyer needs to just suck it up. That’s what happens when you become rich and famous. Some people like you some don’t.
This was a great article. Awesome job.
Firstly, I am a huge fan of Twilight. I have all the books and I’ve seen the movie and I have been quite obsessed with this Twilight world for quite a while.
But I see your point. I completely get where you’re coming from, and why you have these opinions. I understand. I found myself having these opinions sometimes, too.
Well done.
I just wanted to duck in and submit a bit of praise to you, Kellen, the light in this perpetual darkness known as the Twilight craze. For so long, I have found myself seriously doubting the mental state of humanity as a whole. That is, until today, when I discovered there might just be hope for us yet.
Pop culture is the defining energy of history, view points, and the foundations of the mindsets of the generations yet to come. With the Twilight phenomena raging on at full blast, poisoning the minds of millions with sexist, “Mary sueish” ideals, it scared me mindless to find that there seemed to be no resisting force to this madness.
But alas! Here you are. Thank you, thank you for braving the storm. You have more courage than I could ever hope to obtain in actually finishing that dreadful series.
So for the love of god! Speak your mind! You seem to be one of the few voices of reason screaming across this vast sea of mindlessness. Props!
“I’m so superior, that even I bore myself.”
I do love parody statements. You are brilliant. Thank you x 9000.
Well fine! If Apple is going to be such a baby about it, I’ll just buy myself a Zune! Obama has one! …hang on, what was this article about?
“All I know, is that 1,300,000 people against 6,721,000,000 people does not equal a majority.”
And to add to that; I had never even heard about these books before the movie made it to Europe! We are still part of the World right? Back when widdle Edward was still a human being, you could have found people who believed we were the only bit that counted even. Sort of what those Twi-hards seem to be thinking now.
“It is immature to keep bashing the author and the book— go do something more productive with your time.â€
Probably fair. Then again, One review per book isn’t that extreme and most of the books were crammed into one review even! And these are the internetz. You’re just a click away from people who do agree with you.
To give the woman her credit, this series could have been amazing but, as you have said, she ruined it herself with the klutzy Bella, the all-too-perfect Edward and the rest.
Her behaviour toward Midnight Sun shocks me but what shocks me more is the reaction of her fans toward her childish behaviour.(That video is pure crap!)
I am like you a pure feminist and what hurts is that this is a WOMAN showing howwomen are clumsy and idiotic. This is a disgusting example to young women like myself everywhere.
Throughout the series I was constantly wishing it would end as she spins everything out to extraordinary lenghts. Is one adjective not enough?
Thank you for writing this. You are a true kindred spirit to me.
Caity xx
Marry me!
And also, that fan video was repulsive.
1st, if you read midnight sun, you should notice that Edward is not abusive. He really, truly loves Bella, and while his attempts to protect her from danger are major overreactions, he loves her. No matter how unrealistic you think that love is, it’s real for Twilight. End of story.
2nd, When I read your first article, I thought you were slightly critical, but I wasn’t about to sayyou shouldn’t exercise your 1st amendment rights. Though i disagreed with you, you had a right to your opinion.
That was before. Now i’ve just read your follow-up article, and this, and you disgust me. There is a way of voicing your opinion without being a bitch, you’re not doing it. So you hate Twilight, you think Stephenie Meyer is not a talented writer. We all get it. But YOU are being childish by being rude and truly insulting to S.M. and not voicing your opinion in a responsible way.
…Sorry, one second to stop laughing…OK, I’m good.
Great article!!!!! Even though I don’t agree with much that you said, it was hilarious! Loved the start!
When it comes to Twilight, I am a fan but I’m NOT one of the obesessed youtube-posting-OMEing type. And I don’t hold the opinion that Twilight/SM is the best thing ever to happen to this Earth. For starters, Bella as a character really annoys me. She’s nowhere near perfect and definitely doesn’t act like it. Some aspects of the books (especially Breaking Dawn) just make me want to scream!
I can use hormones as an excuse for actually liking Edward. Personally, I enjoyed Midnight Sun and DEFINITELY prefer his narration to Bella’s. The only major flaw with the series as far as he’s concerned is how everything is just too perfect! None of the ‘good’ characters die, there are no major conflicts between him and Bella (apart from New Moon and even that wasn’t exactly a fight) and it’s just a bit too happy-ever-after. I’m not saying that it should have been doom and gloom all the way through but a little sprinkling of reality might have cut into all the perfection effectively.
And just because SM uses long words occasionally and sends a few teenagers running for their dictionaries (or just googling online dictionary), it doesn’t make Twilight the best piece of literature EVER. It takes more than long words dotted here and there. For example, variety. Despite being a fan, I do find the repetition SO tedious! You can only read about references to “the smooth planes” of Edward’s chest so many times!!!! And there are also limits to the number of times that specific words can crop up.
I am, despite all this, a fan and yes, Twilight is not flawless but it’s definitely attracted readers. It’s a popular series and no matter how imperfect it is, that’s probably not going to change.
Regarding the whole Midnight Sun leaking, I do feel for SM. People keep saying how childish she is being but I can partly understand what she means. She’s only reacting in the way that she can and of course musicians and other writers in the same position act differently-they are different people! SM may be more sensitive about her work than other writers and she has the right to be. It’s hers!
Once again, didn’t agree with everything you said but that was an amazing article. I have Twihard friends who would have been swayed by that.
Nice job. (The EDIT was especially clever!)
And I’ll just make it clear, if this comment gets published on external sites, I’m not going to care. *winks*
I don’t tend to follow things like what mediocre, inexplicably popular authors are getting their knickers in a twist about, so I was unaware of all this emodrama. Thanks for bringing it to my attention in such a hilarious manner. (Although, the good mood this put me in was somewhat dampened by the fact that people actually made that video seriously and not as a joke. Those aren’t fans, that’s a cult.)
If Stephanie Meyer is this annoyed about a simple draft leak, I wonder how she’d react if she knew how many people have downloaded PDF files of the finished books to get their friends off their backs about reading it without having to actually spend money on something so appalling.
Maybe she’ll stop writing completely. While that would be highly unprofessional of her, it would make me happy. The effect these books have had on otherwise rational girls of my age sickens me, and I can’t wait until it’s over.
HOLY LOVING CRAP! I think I may be madly in love with you! You have said the most wonderful things. Then again, I am expecting to get attacked by several fan girls after this.
I, myself, am a Role player online. While I may RP some of the worst characters in the world, I would NEVER Rp Bella. I’ve had people come and ask if I could. I laughed in their face and said no. I like some of the others. Jacob BEFORE Eclipse. Carlisle was good. Alice was good. Pretty much anyone other than Bella and Edward. Oh and a couple others.
For the most part, the books sucked ass. If anything, someone should rewrite the books, kill both Edward and Bella, and their little freak baby, give Jacob a good girl to love and give it a good plot.
More like… give the book a plot. It didn’t have one.
Other than-
“I love you Edward! And in three years when you begin beating me, I’ll still love you!”
“I love you too Bella. In four years, when I start cheating on you and possibly kill you, I will think back on these wonderful times!”
Gag me with a spoon. Please.
Just put me out of my misery!
SMeyer is acting like a toddler though I bet you’re getting a bucket load of hate mail. The fans can be rabid.
I’m just done reading your whole “Twilight sucks saga” and all I have to say is: THANK YOU!
some fans take their bookws way too damn seriously.
And I tought Harry Potter sucked.
All twitards please do not read this if you are easily offecnded and feeling ‘unspeshul’ because someone slanted your amazing prefect meyer.
Gt. T. F. O Twitaerds.
thank you!
This is my favorite of your Twilight-related articles. You’re an excellent writer.
Wow, thank you sooo much for this. I too, like many others, just read all 3 of your articles, and I couldn’t agree more. I started out reading the series out of curiosity, and found myself, unfortunately, enthralled. I loved it, every word of it… until the end. For as much as I may have convinced myself that it was the ideal situation, theres just no getting around the underlying issues, which basically ruins the series.
Sure, every girl wants that knight in shining armor( or shining skin in this case), but their story is ridiculous. You cant honestly expect anyone to believe the facts that Meyer presents. She makes it seem normal to not only obsess over a man, but when he leaves, to go into a deep depression, unshakable except by the one good character( who she inevitably criminalizes later). It’s quite the slap in the face to every woman. Like I said, I thought I loved it, but alas, its just one step back for women’s, no HUMAN, rights.
I personally went to her site after reading this article… and let me just say that the whole entry sounded wow… Cry more about it?
Heaven forbid anyone who isn’t in your “trusted circle” sees the piece before it’s done. Sounds like a drama queen who’s let the attention go to her head to me.
Kellen, if I may so bold as to call you byyour first name, I’ve now read three of your articles on Twilight and… might I have the honor of your hand in marriage. I kid (because marrying a stranger is the ninth circle of wrong), but your insights are dead on and have warmed my tar blackened heart. And for this I thank you.
Someone is getting a pay raise.
KELLEN HOW CAN YOU SAY THIS?!
I THINK YOU COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTOOD THE POINT OF THE BOOK!
THERE’S JUST ONE THING I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT DO YOU REALIZE YOU’RE BEING MEAN?
SOMEONE CLOSE TO HER LEAKED IT..
I THINK YOU SHOULD STOP BEING SO SARCASTIC, YOU’RE NOT THAT GREAT EITHER…
Lol! I love you!
But, the real reason Meyer didn’t finish her book is because…
The book got released before Meyer finished, and before she got to edit. This upset her because she didn’t plan on editing, and everyone would know if she put the same beginning into the published book. She now had to edit, so she saw no point in writing it because she simply refused to edit it correctly and fix all the stuff that made no sense.
=]
HHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
This stuff is HILARIOUS!!!i like the books,but I think that BD was shit.The first three were good.BD wasn’t.And before crazed fangirls come try to kill me,let me REPEAT:I LIKE THE FIRST THREE!!!!I totally agree with you.Meyer is being childish.Why “postpone” MS?I get the fact that you gave it to some one close,but people will always backstab others.GET OVER IT!!!!!I want to read MS,but i agree.Bella Swan is a BORING!!!!If my boyfriend had left,I would be devastated for about 3 weeks and then i would have said “If you don’t want me,go fuck yourself.I don’t need you.”And if he went suicidal,I would have said “You DESERVE it!!You left me and there is no way in FUCKING HELL that I am going after you after you DUMPED me!”
I love Edward,but I think that Robert is NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO PORTRAY EDWARD!!I prefer Jacob Black anyway.
you rule, Ms.Rice! you ruuuuuuuullllllleeezzz! I love this writing!
Ok, you HAVE to watch nuttymadam3575′s videos on Youtube. She’s a twilight fanatic, morbidly obese, and represents the failure of Western society.
Its legitimately horrifying.
It turns out that Jessica is actually a real bitch towards Bella when Edward reads her mind, I find it fucking hilairious.
(bows) You are awesome!
Hey, I love your style and attitude. I read all your reviews. I love when you scathingly quote your commenting teenage dissenters. Those girls give shame to vaginas everywhere and deserve every jot and tittle you muster. Keep it up. Please.
I’m going to shamelessly hawk my own response to twilight now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez3BGZYzH7s
Well, i guess i would be a ‘fangirl’.
And i’m not going to scream, use capitals (except for at the start of new sentences) or carry on like a ten year old.
I’ll say that I’m kind of mixed. Of course, I understand what you say. I’m personally not one of those people who goes for; “EDWARD CULLEN; SWOON!”
(oh, whoops, sorry.. i did use capitals. minus ten points.) An over-protective guy that keeps you away from your best friend and watches you as you sleep every night? DELICIOUS! (not).
I must say I disagree with the Bella being perfect and such – I do actually like her, even if I think she doesn’t use her common sense very much. Oh, what’s wrong with Jake, who I was only thinking about at the start of this novel how his tribe are werewolves? no, that’s definitely not the reason he’s ignoring me..
personally, i think that i would feel just as terrible if someone leaked a version of a book i’m writing out onto the internet. i might feel completely averse – did i spell that right? or does it have a ‘d’? hmnn .. – to writing it. i guess, if someone leaked it onto the internet and people liked it, maybe. but i dunno. i can’t ever imagine my book being adored like twilight – that’s if i can even find someone to publish it – so i’ll never be in the same situation.
basically, a majority of fans think twilight the best in the series, when it’s actually the work, so thank the lord for the 12 chapters of midnight sun that i read. proof that twilight as a singular novel doens’t have to be so bad.
when i first read twilight, i loved it, but that’s before i read the others in the series. breaking dawn, not so good either. eclipse and new moon, however – hi 5s all around. (:
i don’t really understand, though, how you consider edward abusive.
also, i’d like to point out that, – considering a majority of you don’t like twilight and, naturally, don’t notice it the way that i do – bella is not suicidal, because of her love for her father. also, this is in a world where you have, well, “true love”, if there is such a thing, which i hope so. imagine how torn you would be if “true love” left you; true love, which would have had non-existant boundaries and proved exactly HOW far your love could extend.
this isn’t me angry, however, i’m just putting my view out there. because, for any book, there must be as many, – if not maybe more, maybe less – people that don’t like it. with a book like this, that many people have read, some people already have an opinion in mind before they read.
btw – your ipod thing was hilarious. but i will consider this different. writing is so much more deep – you have to put the words out from this character’s head. writing really is, when you take a step back and think about it, an amazing thing. every published book has a reason to be published. and every book really does give you that chance to step back and think ‘that’s completely remarkable.’ simply because they can WRITE – a gift many people may take for granted.
well, that’s my very long say.
thanks for putting up the effort to read it.
sorry that i stopped using capital letters for each new sentence the whole way through. (:
I was starting to think that the whole world was in love with this awful book.
I’d walk down my hallway, and that’s all I’d see…I said to myself, “At least they’re reading.”
They’re reading vomit; however. ^_^ Thanks for writting this.
Just read the article. I actually liked the Twilight series, but accept that they aren’t great. They were quick and easy reads, with an interesting concept. The Mormon preaching bothered me more than anything. I came from the Harry Potter fandom and will always consider those books above Twilight. Now, having said this…
Stephenie Meyer pisses me off. What a childish brat. How many times did JK Rowling’s work get leaked? Oh, let me think, every single time she was about to publish! Maybe its just because Rowling is an amazing and strong woman, that she handled herself with so much grace. Perhaps Meyer is a little too much like Bella…
In your other articles, you bash Meyer’s writing. People did the same to JK Rowling, who was a much better writer. So, I’m unsure of what a great writer is. I’ve read some “great” books that I thought were horrible. Anyway, people are entitled to their opinions by all means, I just hate that it causes so much animosity.
OMFG!!!!!! I HATE YOU!!!!! YOU BITCH YOU DON’T KNOW NOTHING!!!!!
OMG, bella is not a merysue!!!!!!! she is a sweet kind human bieng and someone that YOU wish you were! oh but wait your too much of a LOSER to comprhand just how much of a angel bella is!!!!and omg, JUST LEAVE EDWARD CULEN ALONE.
your just jealous bitch because edward will always love bella and not you.edward is perfect and hes smart and he can do everything!!!!!!!! how can u NOT like him??!?!??!?!plus hes so so so so so so so sos os os so HOTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!
stepheny mayer is a GENIOUS, AND YOU WISH U WRITE LYK HER, OMGGGG. UR JUST A JEALOUS FAGGGG.
pwnd.
lol okay, that was worth the laugh.
My name is not really xXEdwardLover-blah blah. I just wanted to imitate what most twilight fans seem to do when faced with the one thing they cannot win against;
People with logic.
I would have loved to have left my “omg leave edward alone” comment up there and see what people would have to say, but I decided that overall it would be much too troublesome to do so.
Great article, and I must say; keep writing, and don’t ever stop.
I think SMeyer needs to get over herself and just publish the damn book already! She will have more money if thats what she wants, and more fans! WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!
Miley you rock love you
Miley is such a cutie!!
I really love Midnight Sun.
If you were locked up in High School for like 5-8 decades, you’ll be bored too.
Nothing happened in his life for a century. Give him some happiness. =,,=
this article is really sad/pathetic. :3
What the hell kind of writer thinks his/her state of mind significantly alters writing ability? Sure, if Kafka’s father had been less of an asshole, we might not have The Metamorphosis or The Castle, but who in their right mind thinks that he would have written those masterpieces any differently if he were feeling a bit morose? Or perhaps slightly depressed? This is just another example of Meyers’ complete literary inferiority.
miley i like u a lot u r the bestttttttttttttttttttt your mom also rocks
Hi miley..i love your song,start all over..what was your age when that video clip recorded?
i luv miley she’ssooooooooooooooo coooooooooooooooooooooool !!!
miley you rock and all of you guys are just jealous because she is famous and you are not so shut the hell up!!!
Miley sucks ass and this website is not about her so you shut up!!!!
you are absolutely a fabulous writer – if i can some day write as witty and eloquently as you do i will count myself lucky. regardless of whether i have agreed with all your opinions or not i have a fantastic time reading what you have to say and will continue to do so. kudos my friend.
Might I say, before I begin my sobfest, that I absolutely agree with what you’ve written? Truth is, when I first read the series, I loved Twilight, but now I’m realising that I loved the idea of it more than I did the actual characters. I still read it, because its heniously addictive, but the truth is–there’s a lot better stuff out there.
As for the MS thing… as a would-be author I emphasise with Stephenie Meyer about the leaking of her work, but to take it this far? Distress is understandable, but saying that she would put it on hold “indefinitely” was pushing it a bit.
I know–to some extent–how hard it is to write, but personally? I would absolutely LOVE if someone like you read and critisised my work. If I was Stephenie, I’d actually be looking for people like you and read their opinions. I mean, reading how awesome your own series is makes you feel important and like you’ve accomplished something huge, but are you really a proper author if you don’t consider critisism from both sides of the spectrum.
But I’m just rambling now.
This is an amazing article. You are made of win.
(And to Erynn–you have NO idea how much I laughed at your: YOU MADE ME KILL A WHALE joke. I don’t condone the killing of whales in any way, shape or form, but that was just excellent.)
x
Please have sex with me Kellen.
You really write so well. I’ve read all your articles regarding “Twilight”–and I don’t think anyone had expressed the horror of the series so well.
Thank you for writing this. It was just so hilarious.
Especially at the end: “This just got leaked. That’s it. I’m never writing another word.”
You’ve just made my day. Good night.
The part about Metallica, U2 and the Ipods had me laughing so hard.
You win at life, hun.
I’m glad to see someone intelligent finally having something to say about these books. While I do not dare to read any of them, for I fear my sanity and social status would become nonexistant, I have my opinions and really wish these people who get so worked up over how great (read: sugarcoated and plastered with how amazing Edward is) these books are would shut up and retreat to their dimly lit caves and cradle printouts of what is completed of Midnight Sun, whispering “Why?” constantly.
Hahaha, wow…for a while I started to feel alone and like no one else disliked Twilight. It’s nice to know I’m not alone.
Just curious though – does anyone else want her to finish Midnight sun and have James win with all the Cullens dying? I think it’d be hilarious. I might even buy that one.
That video has frightened me indefinitely.
Give poor Stephanie a break. Of course she’s gonna be upset, wouldn’t you be if a uncompleted, unpublished, PRIVATE draft of your book had been deliberaterly leaked?!?
Just stop wasting your time, people.
Brilliant, Kellen. Pure. Genius.
I love you!!
I can’t believe that you people actually bother. Go love Twilight in your own crazy little world filled with sparkly emo vampires and stupid brainless Mary Sues. Don’t bring them here.
If you love Twilight,then why even bother with this site? Pfft.
Of course we’d be upset, but that’s nothing to go into withdrawal symptoms. Just write another geez. Stupid woman.
Anyway, I love your reviews. I’ve read all four now, and I agree. Completely and utterly: Twilight is trash.
Hmm….
Leaking happens all the time….it’s how the author plays it out that actually makes it a ‘leak.’ Nobody had to know before the book really came out that there was even a ‘leak’ but…
Didn’t peices of Harry Potter get leaked? Yea…it did. I find it rather funny that the leaked peices of Harry Potter trashed the whole Twilight series.
It may have been a stunt to try to talk it up that its ‘so good’ that it got leaked. Granted, i was all OMG when the first book first came out but after New Moon I realized….holy shit, this sucks!
It’s save to say I fell off the Twilight bandwagon….hell, I jumped!
I actually preferred Midnight Sun to Twilight. It’s not that bad in my opinion. I want it to be published. Which has greatly decreased what little repsect I ever had for Stephanie Meyer. I understand that she’s hurt, but I was pissed to learn that it wouldn’t be published. So I agree with about half of your article.
She can be upset.. but the fact that she won’t finish the damn book is childish, and very immature.
I personally am very grateful for Stephenie Meyer’s Twilight series. They exist as a reminder to me that I don’t have to have writing ability, an interesting story to tell or any sort of consistency within what I say from book to book in order to become a fabulously wealthy author!
It helps me get out of bed every morning.
lolz i loooove that XD
i read the Twilight series and i couldn’t put it in better words than you.
Good Job.
lols man this is great! anti and proud!!!
THANK YOU! I believe you are my new hero.
I loathe Twilight. No, that’s not the correct word. ABHOR would do better in my case.
Please please write more on Stephenie Meyer. I love your stuff, have read all of it, it’s brilliantly expressed and puts Smeyer and Co. and fans, etc. all in their proper place … which is basically chick lit heaven and literary hell.
Ah…someone who finally speaks sense!
Stuff gets leaked all the time – and, as far as I am aware, a manuscript is simply the first draft of the book, and oftentimes has to go through several re-writes before the final story is finished and ready to be published. That stuff might not even get into the actual book (because it might not contribute to the plot…oh, wait, what plot?).
I might feel even a tad sorry for Meyer if it were a NEW story, but it’s not. It’s Twilight again, simply written from Edward’s point of view. It’s nothing new: this time, we are simply *treated* to what what it is like in the barely-existing, empty mind of a completely personality-less dude who claims to be a vampire.
(And does anyone else think that ‘Midnight Sun’ is an awful title…?)
Meyer said it was a rough draft, but it was probably the real thing because she doesn’t edit. Twilight proved either a) she doesn’t edit or b) her editing skills suck.
Midnight Sun Response:
I like Midnight Sun because I get more of
an insight into the other Cullens. Since
I can’t stand Edward and I’m on/off again
about Bella, its nice to spend more time
on my favorite characters.
I don’t like Meyer’s attitude and I
agree with your opinion
of Meyer’s attitude. So it got leaked.Get
over it! My hope is that just to make
Meyer realize that she can’t be a spoilt
child, her publishers will contract her into
finishing it.As you mentioned about the
importance of profit, I can’t see a
publisher being willing to close off the
books when the movies are doing so well.
Even JK Rowling has worked on short
stories and an encyclopedia. She can
get over her prissy attitude.
I always find it amusing how the Twilight fangirls make complete fools of themselves by abusing their caps lock button. If I wanted to defend an author, I would try to list logical reasons calmly, but no… In response to an accusation of S. Meyer’s behavior being immature, what do the fans do? Throw a temper tantrum! Yeah, accusing everybody else of being idiots who should be denied their 1st Amendment right to speak out because they have a differing opinion from yours looks really mature. By the way, being surrounded by Twilight fans who think that Twilight is the best book ever, and that if you don’t like it then you must be lynched, is hell on earth.
I just read all your articles about the “great” Twilight Saga and I so agree with you. That series is totally bullshit. I never read anything so badly written. *laughs* The bad thing is, it´s even poorley written in German translation, where you would think they could at least pepper it up a little bit^^°.
About the movie we don´t even need to talk. I watched it and only thought ???…. and that was all one could actually think about it. Bad lines, bad acting and I never understood what it was with all the shades of grey… Perhaps an attempt to show the rainy Folks weather^^
Thanks for speaking out what many think.
knuffs
karumanta
Hooray for you and your articles(:
The ONLY thing i hate about this article, kellan rice, is that you linked that fan made video for stephanie meyer. I AM MORTIFIED, I ALMOST PISSED MY PANTS! These fans are freaking crazy! Your article is awesome, all of them are, but you must realize that there are twihards (check meaning on urban dictionary) out there and they will come after you with an army of verbal abuse, but they have their opinions and you have yours, and i hardly consider this a hate article instead it is a critique, and people who have different opinions opposed to yours need to stop crying that someone called stephanie meyer on her little hissy fit and write their opinions opposed to yours instead of writing childish comebacks like xXEdwardLoverForeverXx calling you those terrible things. I can understand that people have their own opinions but they should not act childish because it shows there immaturity. Don’t take crap like that to heart cuz twihard are junlike ust that brainwashed and mindless and i would actually respect their different opinion if they acted maturely unlike the person mentioned above. But still, i respect twilight fans and kellan rice for their different opinion but those of you who could only write such mean things to rice, i pity you, you give twilight fans a bad name and thats why people make fun of them and dislike twilight, people you people take this book to seriously and can’t handle criticism. I’m sure even stephaine meyer wouldn’t approve of such things and would be ashamed that this is the type of fan base her books are generating.
OMFG!!!!!! I HATE YOU!!!!! YOU BITCH YOU DON’T KNOW NOTHING!!!!!
OMG, bella is not a merysue!!!!!!! she is a sweet kind human bieng and someone that YOU wish you were! oh but wait your too much of a LOSER to comprhand just how much of a angel bella is!!!!and omg, JUST LEAVE EDWARD CULEN ALONE.
your just jealous bitch because edward will always love bella and not you.edward is perfect and hes smart and he can do everything!!!!!!!! how can u NOT like him??!?!??!?!plus hes so so so so so so so sos os os so HOTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!
stepheny mayer is a GENIOUS, AND YOU WISH U WRITE LYK HER, OMGGGG. UR JUST A JEALOUS FAGGGG.
pwnd.
oh, sorry, i forgot to get rid of that comment from my comment, it is not by me, it is by xXEdwardLoverForeverXx. I loved this article. Wow, twilight does generate alot of conflicting thoughts doesn’t it?
um, sorry, one more thing,does xXEdwardLoverForeverXx know that twilight is just a fictional book and in no way real! I probably wouldn’t be surprised if she goes to forks looking for edward in the forset.
I just read all your articles, I totally agree with you and I think they’re concise, hilarious and really pleasant to read.
I personally think that the whole idea behind twilight was a really good one; it was a properly sweet and cheesy story and had the potential to appeal to a really wide audience including straight guys…but then S.Meyer had to fuck it up…and the story went into free fall with the sequels.
I didn’t read midnight sun(not really interested to read the same story under another equally unappealing character’s perspective) nor did I read breaking dawn(eclipse was just too much, besides, the fans think BD sucks). So if you want to insult me with caps lock on, please do so.
Here are the reasons why I think S.Meyer fucked it up:
1. The characters were not appealing at all. Why did she have to make the Cullens such a bunch of high and mighty snobs? I keep asking fans why immortals would be hanging around in high school, don’t they have more interesting things to do?(unless they have unhealthy tastes in teenagers?? mmmm) You might tell me that they’re just trying to fit in, trying to make Carlisles compassionate motives more believable. But why would they sit around during lunch time not talking and not eating? Why don’t they mingle, make friends, share their experience. You might tell me that they’re trying to keep a low profile but I believe they’re generating even more gossips by being utterly snobbish and antisocial.
If she hadn’t fucked that first point up, Edward could’ve been so much better. Just a suggestion: Edward could’ve been introduced during the Seattle episode where he rescues Bella from a supernatural gang of evil-doers which he and the other Cullens were tracking and Bella just happened to be their victim. Something like that would be totally cheesy and cliche but appealing nevertheless.
2. Bella is totally fucked up. No personality, hobbies, hint of intelligence whatsoever. She’s just shallow and has an overwhelming sense of superiority. The only reason I found in the book for Edward falling for her is because she’s clumsy and smells good. How shallow can it get? It would’ve been much sweeter if say, Edward falls for her gradually while discovering the different aspects of her personality by spending time with her(as opposed to other people who are all open books to him). But if that were to be, Bella would need an attractive personality and something unique apart from her infuriating clumsiness and so called “selflessness”(yeah, apparently abandoning your folks to embrace immortality and good looks is selfless).
3. The endless drool splattered pages where S.Meyer described Edward. Pretty self explanatory. Made the book painful to read and made the non existent storyline move at a f*ckin slow snails pace. And further reinforces Bella’s shallow image because, let’s not forget, she loves him because he’s just awfully good looking! (and saves her sorry ass frequently, yeah, getting your ass into trouble means you’re really THE smartest person around)
4. I really cannot believe that one. They’re being tracked by James and the only person who comes up with the most brilliant idea is Bella. How I laughed at that bit. Living for a century made y’all lose your brain cells eh? So much that y’all had to trust some dumb teenager? But I guess since S.Meyer mentioned that Bella is smart, she has to show some smartness right? But it ends up blowing up in her face and Meyer doesn’t realise she just contradicted herself.
*just a little conclusion, these really fit into the idea that the books were just a fantasy(pure, not sexual, mind you!) of the author. She thinks she led a pitiful life where all the girls were being bitches(poor Lauren) to her . She was just hoping that one day her Edward would come and dazzle her out her chagrin and the other ‘normal girls’ would be left gaping (up yours bitches! now I can be all high and dazzling and y’all can suck on this!!!)*
The sequels are really not worth mentioning(self destruction? love triangle? mutant baby? go to f*ckin hell!!!)
Therefore,
That’s all folks! =D
*I really cannot believe fans would be ready to buy the same story from Edwards perspective(but then, Meyer needs to mind rape all of you some more $_$)…I can totally picture him, just another 13 year old girl who thinks she’s dark and dangerous (as opposed to the weak, fragile and misunderstood girl in twilight)*
Holy shit, that was long…hope I didn’t bore you :p
Ms Rice- I love you just for this article. It is exactly what I think about this whole MS Debacle (not that I could put it so lulzy)
Twihards- You have you’re forums, we have ours. We don’t go on your forum (though that mainly because we don’t want diabetes) to tell you that we don’t like twilight so please leave us and our bitch fests the hell alone.
so im not an author here, as a matter of fact, im still in high school.
ur article is well written and i understand the points u make but i still love Twilight and i always will.
smeyer is being kinda immature but thats her prerogative, whatever.
SHE IS GONNA FINISH THE BOOK THO! she made it clear.
all of the twilight books do have a plot tho, and i thought the anti-climax was brilliant because she surprised us all!
and lets not forget that thanks to her 13 year olds know SAT words, so i think its a WIN
NOT AS GREAT AS HARRY POTTER! smeyer should bow down to JKR but they’re still good books
ur articles are still really funny tho, and i didnt mind the bashing at all, u actually gave me a different perspective, which is always good.
there are some sexist things about twilight that disturb me but its literary drug and i cant stop reading it so oh well!
good job kellen but i guess that series is just not for u. lets not insult all of the fans tho, because not all of us are ignorant tweens.
You are hilarious. I mean this as a compliment. I have just completed three of your critiques of the Twilight Saga and found your perspective well thought out and supported by the text you were challenging. Rock on.
Wow, that’s ridiculous. Could you EVER see, say, J.K. Rowling, J.R.R Tolkien, or Rick Riordan (Yes, Percy Jackson) doing that?
She’s a wimp. I’m sorry, but that’s what she is. As an author, she should be able to take blows much harder then this. Sorry, Smeyer, but this is the real world, not your Mary-Sue Vampire fantasy. Not everyone is going to go “Awww, Pumpkin!” When you get your “feelings hurt.” Edward isn’t going to swoop in and save you when your attacked. Suck it up.
Excellent work! I’ve just read all three of your articles on Twilight and I agree whole-heartedly. It’s good to know there are people out there who share the same opinions as yourself and have the courage to put them out here on the Internet.
I love you!Go Anti-Twilighters!
Will you marry me?
I have to agree that it is pretty childish of her. I mean, jeeze. How much of a spoiled bratt can she be? If I was to ever act out like that my teachers in college would say to me “That’s life… Now get back to work or you’re never going to get a job!”
Tough love. She’s a diva because of one success and now she thinks that she can act like Paula Abdul (or at least how the media is saying that Paula acts – I don’t know, I don’t follow it so I’m completely in the dark about how she actually is).
If I was writing a book – which I will eventually, and my work got leaked, I would write it differently. And you know what? It would be better! There were authors who wrote entire 2000 page novels for a rough draft and you know what they did after they finished writing all of those pages? Threw them in the fire! Yep, that’s right. Because they were like “Ok, now that the bad writing is out of the way, commence with the proper writing!”
You never write the exact way twice – unless if you have a freakishly good memory like if you were some sort of cyborg or something. Usually if you write something and it’s fresh in your mind you will think it’s the freaking greatest thing ever! But come back to it in a month and you’ll be saying “Wow, this is total crap” *edit edit edit*.
There are plenty of things that Meyer can do to keep writing. If she plays around with it and puts in a little effort she might even come out with something half decent.
Wow..
I looked at that “Quilt”..
YOU WOULD THINK SHE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER!
really?
Really?
can you say, over dramatic?
lol thank you so much for posting this. meyer is acting like a spoiled brat. i wonder what her publisher thinks about this. I mean, didn’t she already get an advance or something to finish the book? personally, I think she couldn’t handle the pressure and leaked it herself or something of that sort, mainly because after breaking dawn people finally realized what worthless shit the entire series really was.
Well, I am late, and I do apologise; but, Harley, I’m a fellow British twelve-year-old and I have to admit I’m disgusted by that behaviour.
And most people with half a brain can work out for themselves how bad Twilight is.
kellen, love, you’re THE BEST, need I say more ( I didnt really plan on abusing my capslock, its just that. . kellen does really sound THE BEST!! )and man, I am having so much fun reading all the comments, I am so surprised that not even one twilight fan can write in proper english. . hells bells, no wonder they idolize her.. and kellen!!! that part about Edward where he goes everything is boring-lo. . she is lovel-no I mustnt…. bahahahahahhaha, that was hilarious . . all you twilightey poos, suck it up your ass baby coz, kellen is here to stay!
Stephanie Meyer is basically your run-of-the-mill fanfiction writer. They pull this shit all the time!
Okey, so even though I’m a Twilight fan (not as much anymore, though) I found your reviews hilarious! I’ve been feeing that I’m starting to…dislike Twilight, and now I don’t know how to feel. I’ve always known Edward is an obsessed stalker, and Stephenies behaviour is unacceptabe… I don’t know what this hysteria is all about though, okey some people adore a book which you find nothing interesting about, not such a big deal, in my oppinion. I’m just curious as though why they shouldn’t like it? Yes, you’ve made it clear that you think the book doesn’t set good examples for teenagers, but I’m pretty sure it’s not the only book which does that… In fact, isn’t part of the fun in reading knowing that it can only happen in the imaginary world which you just entered? At least that’s what I think. I know there are lots of good books which are non-fictional, but they are often based on some happening or other that’s often very surreal happening in the oppinion of the reader, something he or she feels as though it couldn’t happen to him/herself. In my oppinion… I’ve no idea why I’m “arguing” with you since I’ve noticed I find I think everything you’ve just said true. But I also happened to enjoy (at least I enjoyed) reading the books so I guess I feel like I have to defend myself. Or somehting.
anyways, this was really fun reading, and now I’m going to check out your review on the Twilight movie which I’ve never even liked.
Sorry for the long, very much rambling review. it was fun reading, but just for the record, not all Twilight fans are brain washed.
Lovisa, 15.
this is probably late, but i just read this article. it had me smirking the whole time. >:) i don’t like the twilight series much, and meyer’s attitude leaves a lot to be desired. tsk. if you really believed in something and wanted to get your message across, something as petty as a “leak” shouldn’t stop you. heck, she must’ve read at least -some- anti-twilight comments; how come -those- didn’t kill the “fire” she had for writing?
You rock! I totally love bashing twilight because it does suck and you completely point out the major flaws in it.
The url is broken it goes like this: http://http//blastmagazine.com/the-magazine/entertainment/2008/11/a-twilight-review-from-an-anti-twilighter/.
Loose the second http//.
Thank you in advance.
Just read your other Twatlight articles.
love how you put it bluntly, instead of sugar coating it.
And to be honest, she realyl needs to get over herself. Writing itself is hard; not especially when you have something leaked. I’m pretty sure it is a pain in the ass, but, she’s blowing it a wee bit out of proportion, don’t you think?
And besides, nobody except for the rabidscreamingsfanbase loved it from Bella’s point of view. What the hell would make Edwards boring vampiric point of view any better?
Oh right. he’s the main hero. the glittering, virgin (well no since bella gave birth to his cow of a child) pedophile stalker hero.
*sigh* Thats just so MANLY. AUGH. I NEED NEW PANTS.
Dear Kellen,
Thank you for your considerate and supported criticism.
Additionally, thank you for the link. I enjoy the fact that the Midnight Sun ranter did not want her pictures and information all over the internet…hence why she posted it all to her public ‘Bebo’ page. Brilliant.
Golf claps to this entire generation of idiots.
WHAT!? This article got leaked!?!?
Alright, everyone, it’s time to go make some rant videos and send $599.99 per person to fund her misery! Why must all good things end! It’s no one’s fault but your own!
*dies*
If you watch Twilight (the movie) closely you can see the glitter fall on Edward when he sparkles.
Ok, I read parts of Midnight Sun and I was relieved to see that he has a personality to some extents and though some parts are interesting I think it’s the same old. Bella is still a stupid bitch. ViJ totally speaks my mind – Twilight had concepts I could love but it all got ruined by an unsensational/unsubstantial lovestory that speaks SUPERFICIAL as a bright bold graffiti painted on a brick wall.
I loved New Moon for its visuals and the wolves for they reminded me of an anime called “Wolf’s Rain.” Funny, speaking of anime I found better plots in them, with realistic substantial love stories than the vomit/diarrhea one in “Twilight” (In fact, I was thinking of rewriting the series, found it difficult as Meyer didn’t give much to work on.) I loved Bella’s suffering in the movie and felt that she was being a drama bitch.
Anyhow, my words to xXEdwardLoverForeverXx. is that Bella is not a kind-hearted person. She’s a BIMBO who ABUSES Jacob and wants to be Edward’s slave ’cause she is into freAky sex and Edward wants to fuck her ’cause he’s bored and is tired on fucking off vampire chicks so he wants to fuck fast food.
Well – If there is a rewrite of the stories Edward would be portrayed as an asshole, Bella a bitch and Jacob and James would kill them all. Then go have tea
^_^
I laughed my head off at the last paragraph…
You’re my hero!
This is all so hilarious. Whiney, teenage idiots (though I am a teenage girl myself) moaning and complaining that Twilight is SO AWESOME AND EDWARD IS SOOOOO SOOOO HOTTTTT! AND OMFG JACOB IS SEXY! WHOOOO! YAY TWILIGHT! STOP BASHING TWILIGHT! There are amazing pieces of literature out there. I wish most people of my age group had better sense. Because I feel like a total alien sometimes, due mainly to the fact that I refuse to go coocoo for cocoa puffs over “HOTTTT” guys in some stupid-ass pop culture movie that IS truly like mind-rape. And, caps abuse is fun. Really.